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edit: i really did just throw this post out and let it rot, didn't i?
a lot of different views coming in, none of which change the fact that my ol' destiny crew have completely jumped ship because of a mix of sunsetting and light-grind fatigue. so, yh sunsetting can rot in hell (i'll admit i'm scapegoating a little but if you think it's a good thing, i disagree with you and after reading all of your defenses for it, you still haven't changed my mind) and while i get why light levels are a thing, i would prefer if that grind was relaxed to taken king/rise of iron levels too; would prefer one big jump in max light at the beginning of the year than little jumps that are more busywork to keep track of. personal opinions aside, light level grind is the least pressing of the two issues i have, hence why the post is "sunsetting sucks" and not something with more depth.
back to sunsetting: i got too many fun legendaries in the vault that i would like to use but shouldn't because of their arbitrary expiration date. it wouldn't even be that much of a problem to me if they would let us infuse the reskinned higher-light drops into our old rolls of the same gun while updating the sunsetting date but nah, gotta push up the grind numbers and force that rng. all this, added with the unfocused, shared loot pool that every tower vendor now has meaning your methods to grind for any particular gun are curbstomped at the gate.
the devaluing of weapon looks and lore doesn't much help either. don't like the aesthetic of pyramid guns? tough shit. don't like using FWC-themed weapons? tough shit. they say it's tough to be a weapon designer who's new work isn't appreciated because old guns exist, but if i were the weapon designer of that old design i'd be satisfied and proud that it resonated with enough players to be held onto for so long. besides, i hear "sunsetting was introduced to dissuade players from all using the same weapons" but all it does is give players more reasons to use the same weapons. take guns like bygones that were easy to get, looked cool on-screen and were potent for their season. now take gnawing hunger: easy to get, looks cool on-screen, potent *and* not being sunset for a year? sounds like meta to me. weapon variety has been compressed because everyone has the same small list of guns that won't be sunset and are useful in all activities where if we didn't have sunsetting, weapons from many seasons past would be popping up more often.
in conclusion: i hate what sunsetting has done so far, i'm not looking forward to its application and i would like it to just not happen.
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Sunsetting is a good thing, it killed my addiction to the game.
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Modifié par noladude : 9/18/2020 11:28:29 PMDon't worry. Bungie WILL take a hit for this. Whether that is financial, reputation, or both, there will be lasting consequences and at this point it's the best we can hope for. They should've learned the lesson indirectly taught by Bethesda that, as a game studio, you are never too big to fail. Laziness and sticking your fingers in your ears will eventually land you right where you deserve to be: on the sale rack (gamepass) or the trash.
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Bungie has already made their decision on this... The only thing we as players can do is make our decision. When sunsetting was first announced there was a response of sunset my gear sunset my business that was trending on here. At this point it's on the community to honor that claim. Dont buy Beyond Light or anything else Bungie related until this decision is reversed. If you aren't willing to do that all you're doing is wasting your time.
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"Sunsetting sucks" (Bungie covers ears) "I won't buy" (Bungie listens loud and clear) Take Vanilla D2 vs Forsaken as an example. The only real driving force that can push Bungie to make BIG changes is your $, stop buying.
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It's gonna happen rather u like it or not. U don't own the rights to the game ur just a player but u have two options 1. Suck it up and deal with it or 2. Go and play a different game.
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Sunsetting will see players exiting the franchise.
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They haven’t even done it yet. Just see how it is first.
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I'm more annoyed with the fact my Lunas, recluse, mountain top and revoker are being sunsetted. I went into a mode I did not like to earn them and bungie says "lul sucks to suck" now if they reprise them as exotics I wouldn't be as mad.but as it stands I'm salty right now.
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NO. Shut up, sit down, and accept the fact that you will play the way Bungie wants you to with or without your consent.
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Bungie ran out of ideas... So with their tiny brains, they decided to sunset stuff, only to bring back the same stuff, at a higher power level.
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yes it does but bungie lose a pretty good support for recycling, cutting costs and time spent on balancing with a out of sight, out of mind approach to sandbox balancing as the item will cycle itself out? I think not, not unless players start leaving in such numbers that force bungie to pull another TTK/Forsaken rescue to the game.
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I don’t know can game developers stop pandering to youtubers and streamers to make a game for everyone and not just people who make videos as free advertisement. I mean that’s the biggest problem.
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@bungie way of slapping you in the face and telling you to bend over and take it in the ass. It's bad enough trying to level up to play grandmaster. They also need to make it easier to get ascendant shards and when dismantling old armor we get back the ascendant shard. But screw it I probably will not buy the dlc and tell anyone and everyone I can tell not to get this game. like a negative yelp review. lol. screw @bungie
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Agreed. It’s a big reason why I don’t play much anymore.
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It’ll only work if the replacement content is NEW content. Giving us old weapons months after we earned them the first time, with nothing new added to them, is horseshit. Gnawing Hunger is the easiest example. If sunsetting is accompanied by barely- or not-at-all-changed weapons already acquired, it will fail. If all we get are Gnawing Hunger or Beloved/Adored situations, it will fail. If they try to make us [b]regrind old content for no benefit other than changing the season symbol, it will fail.[/b]
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The best way I can describe sunsetting is why apple removed the home button and headphone jack
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Only you can prevent sunsetting.
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Well, after CDPR shows how they packed huge world of Cyberpunk 2077 with tons of NPC, players items and even more story lines in 70 gb, Bungie failed again. They can't keep few static empty location and 5 models + reskins in 100 gb for no reason. So I guess both sunsetting and content cut is only show how pathetic Bungie are as a devs. And maybe someone who said they delete all location which assets they will reuse in Europa is...well...true.
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Modifié par Yosemite Sam : 9/19/2020 4:36:19 PMI can deal with the sunsetting but I feel this company having to remove half the game shows how bad things actually are with this company. It's 2020 and there isn't any gaming company that I know of that has ever had to do this in the 35 years that I have been gaming. Sunsetting is a tiny issue if anyone really looks at this game as far as how poorly it has been handled for the last 6 years with this company. Their solutions to most things are like sunsetting, if it's not broken fix it and make it worse and if it's broken remove it instead of trying to fix it. This game shouldn't be losing as much as it is or have the number of issues it actually has. Just like sunsetting, removing the amount of content is not going to fix their coding issues, if you don't fix an issue, it doesn't just go away people 😄 I get why some are upset about sunsetting but IMO you should be more concerned about how bad this game is actually running on their engine with their p2p in 2020.
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It’s just such a lazy fix to the perceived problem. Shows how bad they are at planning ahead. I’m glad they’re partnering with game pass cause this dlc isn’t worth the price tag
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This will be one of Bungies topics that they will never address no matter how many people are against it unfortunately -_-
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They’ll revert sunsetting when their only player base that matters starts to cry and whine and that’s the streamers. Watch and see.
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I’ve been saying it ad nauseam - it’s the wrong fix to the wrong problem. In terms of gear, this isn’t building my legend; it’s renting the flavor of the season. Like hell im going to regrind what I’ve already spent hundreds of hours endlessly acquiring, testing, and master working. It doesn’t respect my time. In terms of locations, I don’t buy the reasoning about saving space or improving builds. It’s either poor planning from the start, or the DCV was the plan all along. Neither is okay by me. And the fact we’re getting D1 content? No dice... already spent thousands of hours playing that, not interested in revisiting. DCV is a con, and it already started with Shadowkeep, which inclines me to believe this was the plan all along. They put a fresh smear of lipstick on the Moon and it didn’t last me very long. Coincidence it’s around the time I started losing interest?
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It’s already....like....happed....
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Sunsetting, as they have chosen to implement it, is a total joke. It has nothing to do with Power Creep when they sunset a weapon, and then make everyone go out and re-earn the SAME WEAPON (e.g., Gnawing Hunger). It has EVERYTHING to do with Bungie not being able to create enough legitimate aspirational content to keep people playing, so they artificially force everyone to periodically grind for the same gear to keep people playing. Terrible look for Bungie.