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2/14/2017 4:47:32 PM
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Because religion is one of the biggest cause of genocide and war in the past
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[quote]Because religion is one of the biggest cause of genocide and war in the past[/quote] I'm pretty sure the human condition is the cause of this. Not religion itself.
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People did that actually, not religion. Also don't group all religion in the same category. There are few similarities between things like Hinduism and Islam, or Greek and Christian.
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[quote]People did that actually, not religion..[/quote]I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...
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Edytowany przez użytkownika RandyDaGod: 2/15/2017 6:22:19 PMThere were more than Noah...
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[quote]There were more than Noah...[/quote] Noah and like, 8 people. Killing millions..
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Yup. That's correct.
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Yo I remember you lmao, like a year and a half ago when I used to believe this god shit you would always shit on my arguments😂
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[quote][quote]People did that actually, not religion..[/quote]I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...[/quote] If God created us, and the people back then were so wicked that he deemed fit for a global flood to wipe out everyone but a few to basically almost restart to preserve goodness in humanity and hope, isn't that God's right to make? If a dog has rabies, do you not put it down? I understand the fear, but I think the fear comes due to the belief that death is the end.
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[quote][quote]People did that actually, not religion..I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...[/quote] If God created us, and the people back then were so wicked that he deemed fit for a global flood to wipe out everyone but a few to basically almost restart to preserve goodness in humanity and hope, isn't that God's right to make? If a dog has rabies, do you not put it down? I understand the fear, but I think the fear comes due to the belief that death is the end.[/quote]Funny to see a religious person making what is essentially a pro-choice argument.
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[quote][quote][quote]People did that actually, not religion..I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...[/quote] If God created us, and the people back then were so wicked that he deemed fit for a global flood to wipe out everyone but a few to basically almost restart to preserve goodness in humanity and hope, isn't that God's right to make? If a dog has rabies, do you not put it down? I understand the fear, but I think the fear comes due to the belief that death is the end.[/quote]Funny to see a religious person making what is essentially a pro-choice argument.[/quote] What does this have to do with abortion?
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[quote][quote][quote][quote]People did that actually, not religion..I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...[/quote] If God created us, and the people back then were so wicked that he deemed fit for a global flood to wipe out everyone but a few to basically almost restart to preserve goodness in humanity and hope, isn't that God's right to make? If a dog has rabies, do you not put it down? I understand the fear, but I think the fear comes due to the belief that death is the end.[/quote]Funny to see a religious person making what is essentially a pro-choice argument.[/quote] What does this have to do with abortion?[/quote] You're saying God has the right to kill people he doesn't want.
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[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]People did that actually, not religion..I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...[/quote] If God created us, and the people back then were so wicked that he deemed fit for a global flood to wipe out everyone but a few to basically almost restart to preserve goodness in humanity and hope, isn't that God's right to make? If a dog has rabies, do you not put it down? I understand the fear, but I think the fear comes due to the belief that death is the end.[/quote]Funny to see a religious person making what is essentially a pro-choice argument.[/quote] What does this have to do with abortion?[/quote] You're saying God has the right to kill people he doesn't want.[/quote] No. God has the right to take life of whom he wills, when he wills. Something he does to just about everyone eventually. But that's his authority, not ours. Ours is basically only in self defense.
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[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]People did that actually, not religion..I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...[/quote] If God created us, and the people back then were so wicked that he deemed fit for a global flood to wipe out everyone but a few to basically almost restart to preserve goodness in humanity and hope, isn't that God's right to make? If a dog has rabies, do you not put it down? I understand the fear, but I think the fear comes due to the belief that death is the end.[/quote]Funny to see a religious person making what is essentially a pro-choice argument.[/quote] What does this have to do with abortion?[/quote] You're saying God has the right to kill people he doesn't want.[/quote] No. God has the right to take life of whom he wills, when he wills. Something he does to just about everyone eventually. But that's his authority, not ours. Ours is basically only in self defense.[/quote] So then why did he drown everyone in the great flood, when he could have just flicked the switch and turned us all "off", instead?
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[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]People did that actually, not religion..I mean, if you ignore God flooding the earth and killing everyone but Noah, sure...[/quote] If God created us, and the people back then were so wicked that he deemed fit for a global flood to wipe out everyone but a few to basically almost restart to preserve goodness in humanity and hope, isn't that God's right to make? If a dog has rabies, do you not put it down? I understand the fear, but I think the fear comes due to the belief that death is the end.[/quote]Funny to see a religious person making what is essentially a pro-choice argument.[/quote] What does this have to do with abortion?[/quote] You're saying God has the right to kill people he doesn't want.[/quote] No. God has the right to take life of whom he wills, when he wills. Something he does to just about everyone eventually. But that's his authority, not ours. Ours is basically only in self defense.[/quote] So then why did he drown everyone in the great flood, when he could have just flicked the switch and turned us all "off", instead?[/quote] I honestly don't know as I am not God. But I can give my speculation if you'd like.
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I don't think God actually did that XD
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[quote]I don't think God actually did that XD[/quote]I mean, if you believe the stories of the bible to be true, then he did. First source I could find is some religious blog, which is admittedly terrible: https://biblescienceguy.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/4-population-growth-how-many-died-in-noahs-flood/ [quote]How many people died in Noah’s Flood? The shortest and most accurate answer is “all but eight.” But how many does “all” include? Prior to Noah’s Flood, population growth was much, much more rapid than today’s growth, because people lived much longer and had many more children. One can make calculations similar to those of previous posts to estimate the number of people who died in the Flood. However, this will be more speculative than the previous calculations, because we must estimate population growth parameters based on sparse data in Genesis. From Adam to Noah’s Flood was 1656 years. If we assume for this period an average population doubling time of 74 years corresponding to 1804 to 2012 when humanity grew from 1 billion to 7 billion, then [u]the world’s population would have been 10.9 million people at the Flood[/u].[/quote]
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But what if I don't take the stories in the Old Testament to be true? What if I see them as lessons like most Christians? Shift your focus to the New Testament if you're talking Christianity
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[quote]But what if I don't take the stories in the Old Testament to be true? What if I see them as lessons like most Christians? Shift your focus to the New Testament if you're talking Christianity[/quote]I fail to see how you could interpret the great flood and the story of Noah as anything other than a story of actual events if you believe the Christian god is real. If the stories of the Old Testament are just that - stories - then why isn't the story of Genesis just a story? Which stories are real and which are just fables?
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Again, shift to the New Testament please. That's what Christianity is about. You say the Christian god but refer to a god that Abraham and his people believed in. There are many books in the Bible, it's not one book. Some of the books teach lessons, others show history. Some are a bit of both. You'd have to be taught for years to fully understand the entirety of the Bible. It's also a little different for each branch of Christianity.
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[quote]Again, shift to the New Testament please. That's what Christianity is about. You say the Christian god but refer to a god that Abraham and his people believed in. There are many books in the Bible, it's not one book. Some of the books teach lessons, others show history. Some are a bit of both. You'd have to be taught for years to fully understand the entirety of the Bible. It's also a little different for each branch of Christianity.[/quote]But the very basics of the world are established in Genesis. Y'know, God creating light, the earth, animals, man, etc. If that's all a story, why is the existence of God even real to begin with? The Christian God is the Abrahamic God. Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same god.
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They do worship the same god, but have different beliefs about him. The story of genesis is not true, at least I don't think it is. It's a story used to describe gods power and how he's responsible for all things. A belief in god is formed by reading the New Testament and the words of Jesus. Christianity = New Testament. Very simple.
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[quote]They do worship the same god, but have different beliefs about him. The story of genesis is not true, at least I don't think it is. It's a story used to describe gods power and how he's responsible for all things. A belief in god is formed by reading the New Testament and the words of Jesus. Christianity = New Testament. Very simple.[/quote] So you don't think God created the universe, the earth, animals, and man?
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Oh I do, but not like how he did in genesis
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Is it fair to blame religion for that though? That's like blaming Marx for all the bad communist leaders
