Where do you see the word scrub in my post? They were nice shots hence the word nice in my post. On second look you took more damage then I thought, and I said I agreed snipers need more flinch. You don't need to dumb anything down I just don't believe that clip is the burden of proof that snipers have absolutely no flinch. There's times where there's not enough flinch and times when there's a fair amt. Rendering anyone in an fps defenseless to shoot bothers me no matter what weapons it is. I would support a descope mechanic but there's no reticle on screen. Flinch works well with the game, however at some point in year one they reduced flinch. If you remember in vanilla destiny the reticle used to bounce above / below the players feet and it was absolutely retarded. Sometimes the reticle would bounce to the top and bottom of the screen. It was the brunt of a lot of complaints by snipers who were getting mapped by Suros regime and the flinch practically rendered snipers useless in a majority of situations. That being said it needs to be increased but nowhere near vanilla destiny levels. If you didn't snipe year one you have no clue what I'm talking about I'm sure the community is able to post some clips from the Suros regime era showing how dumb the flinch was.