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10/23/2020 9:57:56 AM
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It is just sad. This is what I was thinking too. The nerf on 600 rpm auto rifles is good but they shouldn’t have touched the 150 hand cannons.
Making these 140’s is the death of hand cannons.
I looked at the destiny breakdown spreadsheet you can find online.
600 rpm AR have optimal ttk of 0.7 and on body shots 1.2.
150 rpm HC have optimal ttk of 0.8 and on body shots 1.6.
How is it possible that they nerf 150 hand cannons more then 600 rpm AR’s?
The Sunshot stays 150 but is not feeling amazing in PvP for me. I would rather have the Thorn stay 150.
The 110’s to 120 like you say will also not have the effect that it will compete in PvP. Ttk is too slow and reloading takes half a day. Nobody wants to use them.
So it will probably be like you say AR meta again...
Which in my opinion is the most easy, forgiving and annoying meta of all meta’s.
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You realize that 600s are going to be sitting around .8 after the nerf, right?
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Max 0.8. So probably another boring season of AR’s.
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That’s bringing them in line with most other weapons, dude. If you’re still getting stomped by 600s come Beyond Light, you might just be a garbage can in the Crucible.
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We will see. Don’t forget they nerf 150 rpm hand cannons harder. Pulses might be the way forward. Why do players call you trash when you say auto rifle meta is boring?
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People who can’t critically think and blame guns for their own personal lack of ability is just super annoying. The gap in TTK between autos and hand cannons has been closed a lot more, and hand cannons even have a range buff coming up. Yet the brainlet hand cannon mains won’t be happy until everything else isn’t usable.
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600rpm AR optimal ttk is 0.7 and on body shots it is 1.2. 150 hc optimal 0.8 and on body shots it is 1.6. That is quite a difference. Auto rifles are like lasers, easy to aim and stagger more. Now Bungie will nerf AR to a bit better then what they were pre nerf while 150 hc (lightweight frane) will go to 140’s (adaptive frame). 140’s have an optimal ttk of 0.87 and bodyshot 1.73. So I wonder if the gap is closer after the update. I think not.
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Think. Use your noggin and think. The gap between 600s and all other primaries has been closed a good bit. That is exactly what people wanted. At this point, if people are still complaining, then it just goes to show that there’s no reason other than hating auto rifles for the whining.
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People say they want that. What they actually mean is that they want [i]their[/i] pet weapon to be the best. Using anything else is just a low skill easy crutch. Only their weapon use represents the true expression of skill.
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That’s why auto rifles are now by far the guns responsible for most kills in crucible.
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It’s a bandwagon thing. There are genuinely a lot of competitors in the meta, even right now. The Destiny community is just full of idiots who can’t think for themselves.
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The [i]world[/i] is full of idiots who can't think for themselves.
