Savathun created an illusion to trick the Witness. Most likely, the illusion was the traveler being destroyed, which would explain why the Witness returned to dark space because he would have had no purpose. Meanwhile Savathun also used random humans to cast a hive spell to trap the traveler on earth and Savathun killed Nezarec as well as helped to conceal the veil.

Because of savathun. As explained during witch queen. If you played witch queen you would know.

The collapse is just a loop, y'all are literally about to repeat and I'm going to enjoy your "victory". See ya in about another ten years, then another ten years after that...and we will start it all over again.

Same way humanity survived the Covenant

Because they made up story on the go. It was never supposed to be good or without plot holes. It just had to have begging, end and make somewhat sense.

Buddy had the traveler locked down and was crushing humanity and you expect me to believe he wouldn’t just spawn camp the traveler while his minions looked for the veil? Yeah right.

Because THERE IS NO LIGHT HERE 😉 They are people in these comments that have heard a developed theory that explains everything... & predicted much of it. Mine. Convenient how the "heroes" are immortal but the "evils" aren't... not anymore, some were. Curious how all those "evils" are rivals and potential threats to... Savathun. It's a facade. The Witness, like Cronus of Greek Myth... IS a soul stealer. He/They dammed the junction of the Universe at the point of singularity called the pale heart. Wurm holes do not have a fixed point in space time... that's why the Traveler can move. The Traveler is a cosmic conduit/generator of power like a hydroelectric dam. Tldr, The Witness was not ready for the Final Shape yet. That's why. There's a multiverse in Destiny... the pale heart, the singularity allows the Witness to siphon energy from every universe... every timeline at once. The Awoken aren't even supposed to be here... nor Elsie. They are all here as a result of the singularity that exists inside the Traveler. The fundament, the distributary... exist within the same place during the same event. The confusion comes with the volatility of time so near the singularity... where the strength of gravity impacts... contracts and expands time so dynamically. This isn't made up fictional stuff either, these concepts and ideas exist in real word physics.

Confusion is the right response to it. The Witness lost the Veil yet for some reason decided to spare humanity? The Disciples showed mercy? The Hive didn’t use their Logic? Yea, it doesn’t make sense because it’s wholly counter to their natures. When people say it’s because of Savathun, that also makes no sense. Who but one of his own could of taken down Nez and stole it from him? Therefore the culprit was one of his own and yet…didn’t bother asking? So yeah, it makes [i]zero sense[/i] for humanity not to have been wiped out. That’s why they’ve never touched it. They couldn’t explain it. The real reason involves the original storyline. The OG storyline had the Gardner as the source of paracausal power. Kill the Gardner and it all goes away. Remember, the whole franchise was meant to end, not this never ending cash grab crap. When it was wounded and was falling into a coma, it put out an shield of sorts that kept the Dark side enemies away. That explains why the Hive and Vex didn’t steam roll us post Collapse. Something that also doesn’t make sense when you think about it. That’s why in the base D1 grimoire card series, The Dreams of Alpha Lupi, the Gardner talks about the Shell being a cage, it’s memory being tampered with and a feeling it was being herded through the cosmos. There’s no more details than that really. Most of this comes from the leaked contract between Bungie and Act way back in the early years. Oh yeah, the Vex origin was retconned as well. They were originally meant to be the converted remains of fallen civilizations. So likely that was supposed to be our fate had the Gardner not made the Guardians and that shield. But all of this was changed prior to release. They decided to change the story months before release and cut up the base game to stitch together the campaign. And that’s why after ten years, Bungie has only finished one storyline. The Cabal. They were supposed to tell the whole thing in ten years. Everything. Instead they’ve spent all this time retconning one iteration of the story after another. I think we are on the sixth one now. OG, base D1, TTK, base D2, Forsaken, SK-present. They should be embarrassed but they only care about making money.

Savathun got the Witness to believe the Traveler was dead , so there was no point in staying in sol, so they left before completely wiping us out And the Traveler pretended to sleep , to keep the witness fooled, but in intervening against Ghaul , it gave itself away

Savathun rebelled against the witness, killing nezarec, trapping rhulk and hiding the veil. Crota is held hostage to stop humanity from finding the black ship. And to deter oryx from coming to earth. The witness who detests violence believed that a single fleet ship was all it would take to defeat humanity. Which without savathuns intervention would have been true.

i was wondering the opposite how was the collapse so devastating when all we've seen the pyramids do is float around looking ominous