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11/8/2017 6:06:12 PM
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PvE ammo economy needs to be addressed
When the “Coil Glitch” was featured in the world’s first prestige raid completion, you’re game is broken. And it isn’t owing to the glitch. It’s owing to the fact that players simply have zero ammo to deal with enemies and during damage phases.
For the people in the darkness dimension, this is a huge problem as you very limited opportunities to acquire power ammo and you spend so much ammo trying to get decent stacks that you’re severely limited on what you’re able to do for damage.
When you get back to Throne from the darkness dimension and spend your reserves dealing damage, you struggle to pick up anything for the next darkness dimension. I’ve gone in to there with one rocket, three primary mags and one energy magazine. Being hamstrung by a lack of ammo sucks.
Possible fixes would be to (at minimum) include a rally flag at the beginning of each encounter. Then, increase ammo drops across the board - kinetic primary, energy primary and power. Especially kinetic primary.
I also want to point at that using a primary weapon to kill majors and ultras feels hugely underwhelming, from a gameplay standpoint.
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1 Respuesta"Shadow realm" you philistine. Yeah, the psions in the shadow realm ought to drop heavy, because also that would trick people into trying to get it while getting sucked past, and they'll shoot off ramps and stuff and wipe the team, which is funny.
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5 RespuestasOr how about a 3 primary system instead of just 2... more fun more fun
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1 RespuestaMight not be as big of an issue if we weren’t you know- forced to use a second primary instead of a special weapon...
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1 RespuestaAn issue I'm having, even outside of raids, is that there seems to be way too much of ammo I don't need in the ground than ammo I do need after a skirmish. I will literally do an entire public event using only my primary and energy guns, drain one of them dry and the other nearly dry in some cases. I'll look around in the ground for ammo and see... 2 white boxes, 4 green boxes and 13 purple boxes. What? So I learned from this and used power weapons for public events and the results are still about the same. Why do much power ammo, not enough primaries. Also, when I'm out expiring, I really enjoying using Good Intentions. That thing is all kinds of fun. But I can only carry like 5 full clips of ammo max... And when I pick up a white box, it isn't even one full clip. These are just examples of imbalanced ammo drops and reserves. I mean, I want to use snipers and shotguns, but I hold so few ammo that I try to conserve it and end up going a whole fight without using them at all. Power weapons are for bosses only, and that just isn't much fun at all.
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I’m on PC, so I haven’t attempted prestige yet. But even in normal mode, ammo is an issue. I agree, something needs to be done.
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I still don't understand why they removed ammo synth.
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1 RespuestaFor my raid groups I haven't really noticed a huge ammo drought as described here. Normally after a damage phase, everyone is low on ammo, but we melee to clear dogs, then when adds pop, the shadow realm guys throw grenades and i have my titans clear all the adds with striker super. normally fixes the ammo issue pretty easily. i think in terms of raiding, the current system in play is fine as is. i think it presents a unintended challenge that players have to face and i wouldnt mind seeing more of.
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6 RespuestasGamers wanted everything easily accessible. Well, they got what they wanted but at a price of sacrificing many other things... The #1 issue with this game is the loot. The unrewarding system is killing this game. It wont die but it will never really get any better then this.
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It s not a glitch, it shoot more than 1 rocket
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Taking on Calus with 200 or less rounds of coldheart after skulls is rough, I just pray I can melee a few dogs on my way to plates and get some green!
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With the current weapon system power ammo has to be allot more prevalent for this very reason.
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I'm not sure why switching Power weapons needs to subtract ammo in PvE. Its not like I'm picking up rocket ammo. Its an box of "energy" that goes into any weapon type of that category... About lack of drops, bring back consumable ammo packs we can buy. Make them useable with a button combo (hold button press button asigned to weapon type) and sell it for glimmer from Banshee. Its not ideal, but its better then having nothing and facing the boss with primary or secondary...
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Power ammo reserves need to be dramatically buffed. It’s a band-aid fix, but with the weapon system as is, it’s likely the next best thing to do.
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Editado por Zreks: 11/10/2017 4:42:03 AMThere is also a major flaw in close range- long range power weapon design. The ammo drops at the enemies' feet so using anything that is supposed to be long range puts you at the disadvantage of not being able to get any more power ammo. This makes sniper rifles even worse than they already are. I don't really know how to solve this, other than just refund power ammo on kill straight to the damage dealer at long range if the enemy drops power ammo anyways.
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There is always at least one player that has been unable to do any, or at the very least, very little damage during the 2nd damage phase. Have fun and may RNG be forever in your favor.
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Agree, bringing back ammo packs would help this.
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They forgot that the role ammo synths played in allow teams to deal with the multiple team wipes in the raids.
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Definitely agree with this. After each phase and going back into the realm, you end up with less and less ammo period.
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I was liking the new FWC pulse rifle, until I repeatedly ran out of ammo with it in normal pve modes. You shouldn't be running out of ammo for a "primary" in anything.
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1 RespuestaI miss having a sniper rifle in the second weapon slot.
