It's really sad, some of the behavior I see toward women. I want to say that this describes a loud minority of players...but that would be a lie. It's the majority. I just don't get it. MAYBE they are just extra hormonal guys hoping to meet a cool gamer chick who would be into them. [i]But aren't we all?[/i]
No seriously, I think single guys don't realize that every (heterosexual) guy kinda hopes to meet a girl who is into the same things they are. At least in passing. And yeah, it would be really cool. Yeah, I find it really hot when my fiance sets dudes on fire and giggles about it. But in knowing that, you know that [i]the way to get a really great girl to pay attention to you, who shares a hobby with you, is not to just walk up and hump her.[/i]
For example... say we were both into bowling. We're both bowlers. Cool, she's a bowler! We bowl! We can talk about bowling and bowl together! Great stuff! I sure hope this girl who bowls likes me, or at least gives me a chance! Hell, I'd be okay with being friends just to shake up the sausage fest formula on my bowling team a bit! It would be NICE to have a girl or two around, because it's NICE to have girls around. I like girls! They're cool! [b]LET ME GO SHOW THIS BY SHAGGING HER LEFT LEG, CALLING HER A SLUT AND TELLING HER TO GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN.[/b]
See the problem? Not only will she tell you to -blam!- off, she'll probably think twice about bowling again. Everyone loses. She loses a hobby, you lose a chance to interact with someone who isn't drowning in testosterone and maybe, MAYBE, might be willing to give you a chance on another level.
Here's more truth: I don't think male gamers want to admit the fact that they [i]like[/i] playing with women. I'm taken. I'm happily taken. But I still do like playing with women as much as like gaming with the boys. For the same reason I like playing with different people at all---they're different. The same old jokes get tired. The same voices get tired. Sometimes, I just like playing a game with a girl---because a girl is another type of human, and the same old humans get boring fast.
That's the point of the internet.
Who really makes this so difficult? The dick measurers. The same people who call everything Over Powered, the same people who rage when they get crushed in Crucible, or rage at bosses, or just rage. See, they can tell that their repugnant attitude repels women. So they see people with women in their groups, and [i]because that is more rare[/i] they either whine about not having it OR claim that women just aren't wanted.
See: The common reaction to exotics. You either get rational people who get it if they got it and are happy with it and not upset if they didn't, people who rage about not having them because they don't, or people who try to convince everyone that no one needs them because they can't figure out how to make sure that they're the one with the thing not everyone has.
They don't hate girl gamers. They don't want to be the gamer with no girls in their group, and can't figure out why they're the reason for that problem. Somehow it becomes a status thing, like almost everything else, while the rest of us out here who are reasonable are just like...
Lolwut?
~Ricochet
EDIT: Respondent said this needed a TL:DR. Here it is.
[quote]Here, I'll do it for you:
Be nice to girls. It can be fun to play video games with girls. Don't be mean to girls. Maybe if you are nice more of them will play.[/quote]
...and furthermore, it shouldn't be a hostile environment for women to begin with. Not cool, no matter what your reasons are behind behaving the way you do.
EDIT: 4pm Eastern Standard Time, I'm retiring replying to people. Thanks to everyone who participated in this conversation!
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Very old thread but makes sense.
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Can there be an option for not caring one way or the other? Because that's how I feel about girl gamers... It's cool that they play but I have no strong feelings one way or the other
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I rarely use a mic, and rarely join fire teams, but when I have all has gone well. And I'll admit I'm not the greatest player. I'm more a weekend warrior, or after the kids are in bed warrior. I don't get to game as much as I did when I was younger, so my skills aren't the same as they used to be, but I haven't heard any disparaging remarks. Not even when I died again like 15 seconds after my poor teammate revived me the other night...(sorry to whoever that was!)
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" I want to say that this describes a loud minority of players...but that would be a lie. It's the majority" stopped reading, you have no way of knowing this. whole post is based of this wrong assumption
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get over it. 99% said or written is a joke. sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. whatever happened to that? guy or girl i could not care less about your feelings but if you t-bag me in the crucible then it is my mission to make you my own personal sweaty pirate hooker after that.
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I have a girlfriend. Her name is Destiny.
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Edited by TigBits: 10/8/2014 5:02:20 PMIm reading this (btw you're not preaching anything I dont fully agree with) but I love gaming with girls - especially the ones that are generally interested in the game - honestly from personal experience you see alot more female gamers on computer mmo's than you do on console mmo's but still - its prob because the maturity level of the guys that do this crap hasnt reached the aged of 10... IDK - to all the females out there that play video games and have at one point or another been verbally abused i apologize for the behavior of the idiots that have no clue what manners are - and I think its really cool play games with you guys so dont stop playing!
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While my experience so far has been pretty good, I would chalk that up to only playing with friends and friends of friends. I was super pleased with my fire team for cutting me some slack in VoG last night, it was my first play through. I sucked at the jumping puzzle, my fear of heights plays out in games. There was some light teasing about my over cautiousness coming through the cave system, though it was funny. At the jumping part they helped me through it and would die just to respawn and jump with me. On the other hand, yes there are total twats out there who will sit down so their head is in your crotch. Like wtf! I'm sure these are the same immature asshats who tbag people in crucible. Jokes on them though, if they were nice they might get a girl, it's how I met my husband!
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I don't even know why they bring up their gender. Well, honestly, I know why. Because they want ATTENTION. That's what bothers me. I don't like attention seeking people. When I'm playing, I like to play. When I'm on the forums, I like to discuss THE GAME, not if I think that it's cool for some random girl to be playing a game.
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in all honesty... i've just sad and read this.. and it's left me confused.. maybe i've skipped over something or whatnot but what on earth is the point? it's gone from someone wanting a girl gamer girlfriend to humping legs to raging?.. but what is the definitive point here? to get a girl gamer, don't hump her leg and don't piss and moan in the game? i mean how will someone know if i'm pissing and moaning if there's no ingame chat? my head's hurting i think i've just lost 7% of my intelligence trying to figure this out..
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Lol I'm married with a 1 yr old. My wife plays casual games such as angry birds and whatnot. But when my kiddo learns the concept of games....I can see myself playing plenty of Lego/ batman, Star Wars, Indy jones etc etc. I'm not to keen on the idea of letting my kid play online games until he is much much older. The hateful/retarded stuff that comes out of some ppls mouths online is not kid friendly lol.
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Whoa whoa whoa, before i read this, let me stop you at [b][i][u]"gentlemen of destiny"[/u][/i][/b]. Seriously dude, you might as well be looking for bigfoot. Gentlemen of Destiny is a myth. Now i can point you in the direction of [b][i][u]teenage acne faced, fart joking all-day-masturbating wanna be men of Destiny[/u][/i][/b] Those arent too hard to find
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personally I don't give two shits if you are a guy, girl, transgender or whatever. so long as I dont have to constantly revive you, or you don't find a hidey hole and do nothing, or never revive me when I die. that being said.... correct me if Im wrong but destiny doesn't have public chat nor strike/matchmaking chat correct? that being said I think you need to have a talk with your "friends" that you play with about their comments they make, as for the forums wellllll...... most of it is a cesspool. btw, thanks for grouping "most" and the "majority" of males into your description the decent ones of us greatly appreciate that
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You are like a sexist Al Sharpton. A game is a lifestyle, not a gender. Gamer is gamer. End of story. Cry somewhere else.
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Too many virgins it seems. Never interacted with a woman before so their animal instincts get the better of them. Destiny isn't the place to pick up chicks though lol
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Why are there so many threads about this lately? Is this still a thing? Come on people, it's 2014, not 1999. Most people spouting such nonsense at female gamers are either immature little kids, morons or trolls. Either way, their words should be little more than rain drops against an iron shield. Don't feed the trolls. They drink enough tears as it is.
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I'm a feminist so I believe I should wreck girl gamers just as hard as guy gamers
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Yeah I don't care if someone in my group is a woman or not. It literally affects absolutely nothing in regards to my game experience. I care whether we'll get through the Nightfall Strike or not. I am here to shoot Aliens, not to find a wife. Women get treated the same as any other player by me.
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Are there seriously another one of these posts up? This is crazy. I follow tons of girl gamers on Twitch and I have a decent amount of them in my clan, and I think one of the things I like about them is that instead of constantly pushing and promoting the fact that they are girl gamers they just PLAY THE GAME! I don't care about this crap, if someone gives you a problem block them like everyone else. Like...what is the point of this post? What is the point of that poll? Talk to people that actually GIVE you this problem or something instead of coming on forums and expecting a pity party. Or maybe you just want attention? I'm going to tell you the exact same thing I've told all of the MEN that I see on forums constantly whining and moaning: If you don't like it here, go away. If you do, adapt and find a way to make it work. But stop coming on forums and wasting everyone else's time.
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What the... how many people have you played with here? I barely know anyone here and so I haven't seen a single instance of this sort of thing. I'm too old and married to care what gender anyone here might be.
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How do you know all this did you bang the speaker
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[quote]It's really sad, some of the behavior I see toward women. I want to say that this describes a loud minority of players...but that would be a lie. It's the majority. I just don't get it. MAYBE they are just extra hormonal guys hoping to meet a cool gamer chick who would be into them. [i]But aren't we all?[/i] No seriously, I think single guys don't realize that every (heterosexual) guy kinda hopes to meet a girl who is into the same things they are. At least in passing. And yeah, it would be really cool. Yeah, I find it really hot when my fiance sets dudes on fire and giggles about it. But in knowing that, you know that [i]the way to get a really great girl to pay attention to you, who shares a hobby with you, is not to just walk up and hump her.[/i] For example... say we were both into bowling. We're both bowlers. Cool, she's a bowler! We bowl! We can talk about bowling and bowl together! Great stuff! I sure hope this girl who bowls likes me, or at least gives me a chance! Hell, I'd be okay with being friends just to shake up the sausage fest formula on my bowling team a bit! It would be NICE to have a girl or two around, because it's NICE to have girls around. I like girls! They're cool! [b]LET ME GO SHOW THIS BY SHAGGING HER LEFT LEG, CALLING HER A SLUT AND TELLING HER TO GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN.[/b] See the problem? Not only will she tell you to -blam!- off, she'll probably think twice about bowling again. Everyone loses. She loses a hobby, you lose a chance to interact with someone who isn't drowning in testosterone and maybe, MAYBE, might be willing to give you a chance on another level. Here's more truth: I don't think male gamers want to admit the fact that they [i]like[/i] playing with women. I'm taken. I'm happily taken. But I still do like playing with women as much as like gaming with the boys. For the same reason I like playing with different people at all---they're different. The same old jokes get tired. The same voices get tired. Sometimes, I just like playing a game with a girl---because a girl is another type of human, and the same old humans get boring fast. That's the point of the internet. Who really makes this so difficult? The dick measurers. The same people who call everything Over Powered, the same people who rage when they get crushed in Crucible, or rage at bosses, or just rage. See, they can tell that their repugnant attitude repels women. So they see people with women in their groups, and [i]because that is more rare[/i] they either whine about not having it OR claim that women just aren't wanted. See: The common reaction to exotics. You either get rational people who get it if they got it and are happy with it and not upset if they didn't, people who rage about not having them because they don't, or people who try to convince everyone that no one needs them because they can't figure out how to make sure that they're the one with the thing not everyone has. They don't hate girl gamers. They don't want to be the gamer with no girls in their group, and can't figure out why they're the reason for that problem. Somehow it becomes a status thing, like almost everything else, while the rest of us out here who are reasonable are just like... Lolwut? ~Ricochet EDIT: Respondent said this needed a TL:DR. Here it is. [quote]Here, I'll do it for you: Be nice to girls. It can be fun to play video games with girls. Don't be mean to girls. Maybe if you are nice more of them will play.[/quote] ...and furthermore, it shouldn't be a hostile environment for women to begin with. Not cool, no matter what your reasons are behind behaving the way you do.[/quote] Female gamers can be hostile too you know!
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Meh, not all of us are prepubescent kids. I have a wife and I just treat everybody with respect. She may not be a gamer (Crashing everywhere while playing Mario Kart 8 doesn't count), but she lets me play for hours and never complains that I'm hogging the TV or anything like that. Win
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What's with all the gender related posts as of late? I mean it's occasionally entertaining to say the least but still...
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Edited by ENDO!: 10/8/2014 6:20:42 PM[i]Oh look a discu--- ... TL;DR genders, move along.[/i]
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When Are you going to come out