Howabout we balance the AA on every sniper... So people who are actually skilled at sniping dont get quickscoped by skill-less neanderthals running with the highest AA sniper

I voted yes, but I'm genuinely confused as to why people believe primaries have anything to do with it. There are so many people insanely good at sniping now, that literally if you see the red light, it's too late. At several different ranges. I don't understand why you think having a stronger primary (aside from high caliber rounds, and assuming you survive the first sniper shot) will do anything to help your TTK when you're still the first one dying. [b][i]Snipers have THE BEST TTK. They will never make a standard primary that matches the TTK of a sniper, it just won't happen.[/i][/b] This is why you have to hit snipers themselves by making them harder to use.

I don't think they should be nerfed. They do exactly what they are supposed to do. One shot to the head, 2 to the body. What more do you want?

Bungie says that they don't seperate PvP from PvE in the sandbox so that your guardian will feel the same in both modes. Then explain why there is a noticable sniper flinch when shot in PvE and not nearly as affective of a flinch in PvP? Bungie needs to reverse the ammo economy nerf and rework the sniping mechanic in PvP altogether. Several things can be done that bungie doesn't do. Nerf the tar out of aim assist, or remove it flat out. Add sway and hold breath to steady aim. Lose breath on hit and over a period of time. Descope when hit (at least descope on crit and each hit during crit). If none of these then carpet nerf RoF on the entire class.

Why sniper rifles should NOT be nerfed: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/209055316?sort=0&page=0

People are so flipping stupid. They wanted so many primary weapons nerfed. They got it and then complain about the the g0d damn results. Oh I can't kill them with my primary so snipers must be overpowered and a problem.. When in reality the lack of primary power is the issue. You sucked the joy out of pvp already. Seriously stop encouraging nerfs. The descope thing is absolutely the dumbest desire the game has ever faced. Snipers have no Hip fire reticle. They would become useless in pvp but mainly in pve. The flinch is still very high but with .8 primary kill times players have more time to counter the flinch. If they didn't have time to reset. It wouldn't matter. You people have to be year 2 players or Year 1 players who are just horrible at pvp. Not only that but if you actually took the time to do your research you would see that shotguns are used for more then sniper rifles. According to Guardian.gg this week more people use shotguns in most play list besides skirmish and Trials. This is the case most of the time. Shotguns are used more than snipers. In control snipers are normally around 10 percent while shotguns are around 19 percent. Shut up and stop trying to destroy pvp further because you are bad or don't understand how this game works.

Shotgunning has to stop, sniping is fine. But shotgunners give me aids

I think perhaps the community is over-emphasizing the pervasiveness of snipers in the current meta. FWIW I did check 'yes' in the poll - they are definitely used a bit too much inside their intended range. Yes, many people run snipers now, WAY more than back in year 1, and there's a number of reasons for this: primaries are somewhat weaker, shotties got a nerf, and, most importantly, people have had 2 YEARS to practice with (on paper) the most versatile weapon type in the game. So how do we draw snipers back out into their intended range is the real question. Removing aim assist is a crap idea, and by now I think everyone knows why (and in case that's wrong, try quick-scoping a team mate - for which there's no aim assist - it doesn't work at all). I think this game's far too dynamic and action-oriented to implement a halo-style descope on hit, so let's bin that for now. Honestly, I think a breathing mechanic might not be so bad, I'd try it. How about this though: the majority of why snipers can handle in close encounters is due to a more than fair amount of aim assist. Since Bungie has shown they can make aim assist a variable based on distance from your target, how about snipers have an aim assist range between x and x+y meters? for example, you get crap AA 0-15 m, good AA 15-50m and poor AA again for 50m-beyond. Whatever the effective solution is, do realize you're still going to get quick-scoped on occasion, and that's fine. People practice for hours and hours to accomplish this. That said, I agree that the average sniper needs to be toned down a hair

Sniping isn't the problem, primary weapons time to kill is the problem.

I'm a shot gunner and there's so many ways to counter a SG. Nades, tlw, other SG, melee ....... Yet sniper only has one counter, another sniper. If a primary hits first it should take a sniper out of scope. Just doing that would really balance things.

One of the last clash games I played on the forgotten shore had the entire opposition hardscoping from on top of the structure past where the b and c control points would be. What has happened to the game.

I voted no.... But you should descope if you get hit in the head that would really help balance things everything else is fine honestly