Do people realize that not all supers are meant for boss damage? What happened to class identity arguments? Everyone just wants their character to nuke everything. It’s a coop game, work with a team. Otherwise, grab a character that does the giant dps boss melting stuff that you want?

I just feel that if you NEED Geomags to make Chaos Reach a viable DPS super, it better be in the top 3 for highest DPS since it's long lasting, leaves you completely exposed the entire time you're using it and using means you cant use any of your weapons during the average Boss DPS phase.

I really like that Gathering Storm, when compared to Chaos Reach, does more damage, deals it passively, takes less time to do it and charges faster. You can just add its numbers to whatever DPS setup you're using, whereas Chaos Reach is less effective than shooting your guns.

How many times do we have to say it? [spoiler]warlocks are NOT the damage class[/spoiler]

That's fine, as long as they nerf the new Warlock arc melee in pvp.. arc Hunter n Titan needs pvp nerfing too, not just Warlocks.

Nah. Bring my well nerd.

Warlocks are about ability spam. Not super power

Nah even after the needed buff a whinelock always finds something to complain about

If players play the class correctly they still get to have fun with the kit the game has developed for them. I am not even remotely a Bungie shill but not every single super needs to do big d!ck damage. Use your damn heavy weapon; Taipan can be shaped so easily and it's basically a Reed's Regret. Use the arc mod for extra super damage and jolt the enemies first. Begging like a baby isn't going to make Bungie redesign the class, they can't, they don't have the skill for it. The only super that needs to be buffed or fixed is day break. That is completely useless with it's ultra high cool down, trash tracking, and absolute abysmal damage.

That is just an extremely near-sighted way of looking at things. By that logic wouldn’t there also be no downside to buffing hunter or titan super damage? Why not just buff the damage if everything so that everything is better! Well then nothing has improved relative to the rest of the sandbox, and the game just got easier and faster-paced. I’m not completely opposed to buffing CERTAIN supers in pve, but you have to be careful about how you do it. For example I don’t think a flat increase to Chaos Reach’s damage is really fair since it already does substantial damage and is easier and safer to use than other damage supers. However, I would like them to double down on the idea of arc warlock abilities getting enhanced when amplified, so Chaos Reach could deal additional damage and blind enemies (both with the laser itself and the explosions on kills) while amplified. Stormtrance could get increased damage and farther ionic blink distance while amplified. I would also like to see some other super buffs in pve, such as a reduction in energy cost for attacking with Daybreak, and maybe an increase to its pve damage. As for other classes, I think Fists of Havoc desperately needs a damage buff and possibly another buff (here’s an idea, make Eternal Warrior grant the old Trample perk to extend the duration, effectively buffing the super and the exotic both at once). Also, I don’t recall Arc Staff getting much of a damage with arc 3.0, so I assume that super is still weak in pve.

While they're at it buff first of havoc. It's up there for the worst super still

Please include your expected damage values in relation to the other supers.

Oh yeah increase that damage. Then whinelocks will be back next week wanting more super damage.

Damage doesnt make fun. I'd sacrifice the arcstaff yeet damage anyday for arc warlock builds.