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[quote]I did a Div run 6 weeks ago. Every week, I see people in LFG still doing Div runs. I just checked LFG a second ago and I see a group doing a Div run, looking for one more person to finish the raid.[/quote] I completely disagree with this. Div runs are wildly inconsistent. Even if you see one in LFG, you have to consider a few other possibilities. Majority of the time, that one Div party has been recruiting for several HOURS that day. And even aside from that, just because a party forms that does NOT mean it finished. I've had several parties while trying to do a div run for my wife that would dissolve after an hour or so. Overall, it is far too inconsistent, after 2 years. And if you're worried that selling these exotics will diminish the playerbase for each raid: that (mostly) won't happen. The people who are only chasing these exotics don't ever do full runs in the first place, they just jump into final boss CPs. So it hardly would change the current population, or even the rate of diminishing population.

[quote]I completely disagree with this. Div runs are wildly inconsistent. Even if you see one in LFG, you have to consider a few other possibilities. Majority of the time, that one Div party has been recruiting for several HOURS that day. And even aside from that, just because a party forms that does NOT mean it finished. I've had several parties while trying to do a div run for my wife that would dissolve after an hour or so. Overall, it is far too inconsistent, after 2 years.[/quote] You can disagree all you want, but I still see people running GoS daily and people still doing Div runs. And if the fireteam knows what they're doing and is familiar with the raid, Div runs don't take very long at all. If you check my GoS completion, that was a Div run. My group and I completed it in 52m 58s. Remember, you said, “Nobody runs Garden of Salvation anymore, let alone a Div run.” I'm simply pointing out that your assumption is not true at all. [quote]And if you're worried that selling these exotics will diminish the playerbase for each raid: that (mostly) won't happen. The people who are only chasing these exotics don't ever do full runs in the first place, they just jump into final boss CPs. So it hardly would change the current population, or even the rate of diminishing population.[/quote] People still do full runs if they need pinnacle gear. [quote]For the record: I have all of these exotics. Got 3 1KV in my first 9 runs, EoT on my 2nd run, and Vex on my 2nd run.[/quote] Also, I get the feeling you don't actually have these weapons. If you had 1K, you'd be using 1K instead of Sleeper Simulant like every other normal guardian.

You mean the 1K that's on my Titan? Shall I also throw my EoT, and Vex up too? Don't make assumptions. As I said: I have all of these weapons. The only raid exotic I am still missing is Tarrabah, purely for lack of trying. You're nitpicking my response for dumb technicalities but let me give you some facts: I checked LFG this afternoon during my lunch break. As of 1200 EST There were more than 50 VoG groups recruiting ( I stopped counting after 50), 4 Last Wish, 8 Garden (none were Div groups) and 9 DSC. 50 VoG vs 21 of three other raids combined. And most have a language barrier as well (other nationalities) which is not a bad thing, but it does hamper many players' choice since they will not be able to communicate with their team. So the population if these raids (or lackthereof) makes those weapons harder to obtain for players now, as there is significantly less chance for them to even get a group consistently at the time that they can play, let alone clear, let alone have RNG on their side and get the drop. You also misread what I said: for the people [b]WHO ONLY ARE TRYING TO GET THE EXOTIC[/b], as in they don't care about getting pinnacle gear or anything else, they just want the Vex, those people (and there are a lot of them) only ever do Atheon CPs in the first place. Same with EoT: most of the people running DSC are only running Tankis CPs because they're just trying to get Eyes of Tomorrow. Yes, that is a thing that happens in the game.

The majority of people still looking for raid exotics are also looking for pinnacle gear to hit max power this season. Do some people run only the CP for a chance at the exotic? Absolutely, but not all. It’s almost as though every platform has a different population using LFG. In the largest Discord server for PC, all raids are incredibly active, some more than others, but active nonetheless. Either way, the exotics for current raids don’t need to be in the Monument. Like I said earlier, the one thing all those exotics have in common is the raid is current vaulted. There’s no reason to put exotics for current raids in the Monument.

You are completely missing the point. I am well aware that there are people who are actually running the raid for the pinnacle drops. I am also well aware that the number of people who are only running for Vex is much smaller than the number of people running for all of the loot. That isn't the point. Read again: my point is that making a change that makes the Exotic more obtainable and accessible to the population will NOT do anything to diminish the number of people who are running the raid currently. A lot of people think "once someone gets the Exotic then they won't run it anymore." That is simply not true. That was the point of that statement, and you completely missed that because you're trying way too hard to look for micro-details in a macro claim. You are getting so caught up in the little "well ackchooalley" details of what I am saying that you are utterly missing the main point in favor of nit-picking my syntaxes. Yes I only looked at one site but the ratio still stands. I promise you that if you looked at every other LFG group, that same ratio would exist: More groups go up for VoG than the other 3 raids combined AND doubled. That is an unfortunate truth. And that, means it is harder for players to even get a group for those other raids, let alone clear and have RNG on their side. Say what you want about your Discord server, those statistics will almost certainly be the same. I am well aware of what the Archive is meant to do. Likewise; there is also no reason that it needs to stay that way. Why not improve on an existing mechanic? There is absolutely no reason not to.