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publicado originalmente em: Why does Fire get frozen.
5/8/2021 5:05:14 PM
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Why? Physics. Heat is released energy. Freezing is the effect of removing energy from something. Remove energy fast enough, and you can exhaust and douse any flame. Best explanation I can give without a multi-paragraph lecture no one would want to hear....
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  • Or a decrease in pressure!

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  • Editado por Gilgamesh: 5/9/2021 6:02:12 AM
    Then you are dumb as a rock as explaining Entropy is as easy as saying: A thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system. Literally the definition and makes perfect sense on why it freezes You just obviously didn’t know that and made a stupid excuse. Hell even the 2nd law of thermodynamics explains why staying in a dusk feild grenade freezes you Ill explain that one with a definition “the second law of thermodynamics says that entropy always increases with time”

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  • You don't have a gf do you...

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  • Lmao, if you want to assume smart people dont have relationships then you really are dumber then dumb.

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  • Editado por UltimatebluE II: 5/9/2021 5:59:36 PM
    Not an assumption...just a fact "Dumber THEN dumb" dont you mean "than"...yes you are very smart lol

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  • [quote]Not an assumption...just a fact "Dumber THEN dumb" dont you mean "than"...yes you are very smart lol[/quote] Keep in mind, you’re arguing with someone who thinks they can sue Bungie for vaulting content...

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  • Well, he can. He just cant win

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  • [quote]Well, he can. He just cant win[/quote] Very true. Thing is, he thinks he can win the lawsuit.

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  • Considering you dont know what a class action lawsuit is you better be quiet, i gave you a way out of that conversation.

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  • Editado por SteveOfSteves: 5/10/2021 11:50:22 PM
    [quote]Considering you dont know what a class action lawsuit is you better be quiet, i gave you a way out of that conversation.[/quote] I do know what a Class Action Lawsuit is. I also cited [url=https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Legal/SLA]Bungie’s SLA[/url] to you in a previous conversation: [quote][b]Class Action Waiver: [/b] The parties further agree that any arbitration shall be conducted in their individual capacities only [b]and not as a class action or other representative action[/b], and [b]the parties expressly waive their right to file a class action or seek relief on a class basis.[/b][/quote]

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  • Oh really...thanks for the heads up. Now it all makes sense.

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  • Its not a fact but okay, if that was true then the Human race would be evolving backwards. You may be a odd byproduct of stupid people breeding but thats a you problem

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  • I like stupid people, maybe thats why i like you. Can you pretend to be smart a little longer for me? My poo's take a while to come out at my age and your posts give me something to read while i wait... Thanks in advance.

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  • Editado por BC1 Edge: 5/9/2021 1:15:15 AM
    Someone studied Year 1 science and stopped there. The teachers probably thought this wasn’t an area where you would do well in and It really shows.

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  • [quote]Best explanation I can give without a multi-paragraph lecture no one would want to hear....[/quote] I would like to hear this multi-paragraph lecture.

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  • Editado por kellygreen45: 5/8/2021 6:10:03 PM
    1. Remember, when your eyes glaze over, you asked for this. 2. I’ll try to keep it brief. A. The universe (“light matter and light energy”) are comprised of 4 states of matter and four fundamental forces. Matter can exist in four phases: solid, liquid, gas, plasma. A plasma is when you break up the components parts of an atom and the exist as isolated particles. Lightning is a plasma. B. The four fundamental forces are: Electromagnetism, Gravity, nuclear strong, nuclear weak. The weak force is the force that holds very large atomic nuclei (like plutonium and uranium) and is the energy release by radioactive decay and nuclear fission. The strong force is what holds small atomic nuclei together and is the the energy released by nuclear fusion. C. Energy can be thought of as existing in two fundamental forms (gross oversimplification in the name of clear communication)thermal energy. Which is the energy of MOTION of subatomic particles...and them mass energy (E=mc^2). The mass of sumbatomic particles can be thought of as a form of extremely stable energy. But that mass can be transformed into a very large but predictable amount of energy. D. Most every day chemistry works with thermal energy. What we call “fire” is the release of electromagnetic energy (light and heat) by the combination of substances (fuel) that can have the energy of their chemical bonds broken down and rapidly released (exothermic) in the presence of an oxidizer (usually oxygen which breaks those bonds) and a triggering energy source (spark, ignition source) The light and heat represents the energy of motion contained by those chemical bonds(oversimplification but more detail than that requires going into quantum theory, and a level of physical chemistry I don’t want to delve into). E. When we talk about nuclear reactions we are generally talking about forming or breaking new connections between subatomic particles and transforming that energy ...and any motion/thermal energy associated with those particles into a release of electromagnetic energy (fusion and fission) or particle -based radiation (fission). Now to the meat of the matter. All of this boils down to—-wether you are talking conventional fire, or the power of stars—-the transformation of one form of energy into another... and releasing it. Freezing represents the removing of energy. The second law of thermodynamics states that over time objects go from states of higher complexity to lower complexity (entropy). Objects that are being heated are in a state of higher complexity because more potential states of being are available to it. Cold object exist in states of lower complexity because fewer energetic states are available. That’s why heat always moves from warm to cold...and hot objects cool unless you continue to supply them energy to maintain that state. So a condition that rapidly cools has the ability to accelerate a process of energy loss, that a flaming or radiating object is already committed to.... it will quickly douse that energy by absorbing it. TLDR: If I drop a burning match into a beaker of liquid nitrogen—-air that has been cooled so much that it’s turned the nitrogen gas into a liquid (phase transition) it will quickly douse that match. Because the capacity of that liquid nitrogen to absorb energy (because so much was removed in cooling it) far exceeds the ability of that match to release energy. Water works the same way in dousing most fires. It cools the fuel, making it harder to heat. Plus it has the ability to absorb a massive amount of energy before it finally boils of and transforms (phase transition) into a gas (water vapor/steam). Make sense?

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  • Editado por Gilgamesh: 5/9/2021 6:06:18 AM
    You can try to be smart by quoting stuff other people have said before but actually site those people and give them credit instead of trying to act smart A B C D and E were completely unrelated information that you added in to make it seem like you were making it long All you had to say was the layman definition for Entropy as even a moron can understand it Saying big words and long paragraphs dont make you smart, what makes people smart is condensing information, that is reflected with technology things get better the smaller they are and require geniuses to think small.

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  • I’d like to point out that technically he gave the condensed explanation to prove his point originally but then he was asked for the long version

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  • He didn’t give a short version, saying “physics” is like someone asking a what kind of question they are working on and me saying “math” Its not descriptive Anyways his example about a flame is dead wrong as a example, a correct example would be lighting a flame and it dying out over time with no human interference. Or a better one is when smoldering embers cool down and are just ash.

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  • Lol don’t know what u read but he did not give a one word answer he gave a short but explanatory answer u don’t neeed to deny that to prove yourself right but if it makes u feel better have fun 👋

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  • The guy loves commenting on other peoples posts and doing the same so idrc

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  • And both are stupidly wrong, Kellygreen acts like a expert in all things and is pretty much insane. The guy once said that Bungie is exclusively listening to him and adding what he wants. As well is a firm believer in sunsetting and made multiple rant posts (that prove nothing other then hes mad) when sunsetting was removed. The guy just looks information up, reads a TL:DR which you should never do, as you get the dumbed down explanation and acts like a expert on it. We had a argument weather Crow was a amnesiac or a new person and as the game literally describes him I was right but kelly pretended to have studied such topics in College. TL:DR (i said these are dumb but some people still need them) Kelly isn’t smart and just says stuff, when he takes information he never cites it nor acknowledges when hes wrong

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  • FYI I don’t give two sh*** about who green is as a person I’m just pointing out that the statements about his long winded explanation (whether it was acurate or not) were made like he didn’t even attempt the a short one when in reality he did and some specifically asked for the long one. The funny part is how u (and one or two others) acted like he was trying to be mister big brain with the long response and he probably wasn’t even going to write it without prompt

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  • Well both of his explanations are really bad so

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  • Never said they were good so

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