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Feedback about newest TWAB concerning transmog

I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.

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  • I think because of their choices, I will be skipping next season and waiting to see what changes come. I will not reward them with their greed and I highly suggest others do the same. Otherwise this will just continue, and more than likely get worse. This is absolutely insane of them. I'm going to take this time to venture into other games, games that have a player base first mindset.

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    • There's an interesting behavioural trait that seems to be at play here. When someone says they are doing something for you, but it is actually for their own benefit (and often your detriment) that person can never be trusted. Fact. Their motives are never clear, but their outward appearance is all smiles and words of friendship and trust. Words. One must simply look at their actions to see the truth.

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    • Editado por AustinTheWitch: 4/23/2021 4:00:58 PM
      Wow. Look, I don’t know how you can possibly -blam!- up a feature like Transmog in an online game but this CDPR levels of -blam!-ing stupid. Any arguments for are debunk because cosmetics have no power therefor don’t place you at an advantage. This is possibly the most dumbass thing Bungie has done next to remove content from their game. This actually just solidifies that I wouldn’t support Bungie if even if Destiny was the only ticking game on the planet. I’d rather play Russian roulette than this crock of shit ran/designed by dumbasses. Edit: Hell. I’d drop 100 USD on Anthem Cosmetics just to spite Bungie, if I knew it would sink this -blam!-ing game. Side Note: I’ve seen less Monetizing every little step F2P Mobile Gacha Games. Which by the way, gacha games at least guarantee you a reward. Bungie practically has monetized every thing they game and that’s worse than gacha games and obvious P2W games. I’m sorry. You want X exotic, sorry it’s 15 USD. You want new content, that’s 15-40 USD. You want to Transmog, that’s 10-15 USD. Hell, Pokémon cards are more rewarding than this system they’ve mishandled every -blam!-ing step of the way.

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    • Why couldnt it be simple like you buy the item required to turn armors into ornaments with shard,cores, glimmer or whatever. Why do we have to grind for synth cords and all this nonsense. Its simple man you buy a new mat(synth cord) that allows you to turn a piece of armor into an ornament you can use to slot into other armor pieces to change their appearance. Why does everything needs to be a god damn grind. Diablo2 resurrected is coming soon and im building a pc so i might just skip this season. I think i have had enough of d2 tbh.

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      • I don't even know how the new transmog system works because I stopped reading when I got to the part about the layers of bounties. So let me get this straight bungie, you do bounties for a material, but that material isn't even for transmog, hahaha no. That material let's you buy more bounties for ANOTHER material. Now you can get transmog for [i]that[/i] material right? BWAHahahaHa NO! [i]That[/i] material gets you...MORE BOUNTIES! *Evil cackling continues* Complete those bounties for yet another material [i]that[/i] material will finally let you buy transmog... BUT ONLY 10! BWAHAHA. [spoiler]Someone please turn this into that El Risitas meme video [/spoiler]

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        • Can’t say as I’m surprised by the mechanics put in place in order to transmog. Disappointed is probably the best word to describe this blatant attempt to have players purchase silver in order to fully transmog their legendary armour inventories. What’s offered to earn via the grind per class is laughable. I see little reason to be excited or grind for the upgrade materials to transmog my favourite pieces. Overall feeling is I won’t even bother. Good job Bungie.

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          • They directed the pressure to spend money not on new players but old players with tons of gear. There's no incentive for someone just starting to engage the system at all and veterans have hundreds of reasons to spend even more money on the game sitting in their collections. It's either incompetence or blind greed that created this issue.

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            • And one ISSUE no one is talking about......I mean I don't see it anywhere. Since we are unable to pulled out gear with Random Rolls from Collection, How the hell do they think we are going to be able to Transmug some of our favorite gear? This is a Serious Problem at least for me!

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            • The Transmug system is GARBAGE..... I wonder..... Did they even do any research before they implemented this? https://youtu.be/Ia4d-u6sY_M

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            • Lately, I've been spending more time spring-prepping my vintage motorcycle for the coming season. I find it interesting how I have such a long-term and loyal appreciation for things that came to me through effort and time. Time.... the most valuable and precious commodity we have.

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            • [quote]I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] GOAL:Freedom of visual effects, room in vault. BUNGIE COMES UP WITH A LIMITED SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T FIX PROBLEMS MAKING MORE PROBLEMS

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            • [quote]I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] If you guys WANT THIS TO WORK RIGHT THEN I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING: FOR THE FIRST WEEK YOU CAN CONVERT EVERY THING INTO ORNAMENTS AT 100 GLIMMER PERIOD PER ITEM, THEN NEW SEASONAL STUFF CAN'T BE MADE INTO ORNAMENTS TILL TRANSMOG SYSTEMS KICKS IN. THEN CONTINUE WITH THE 10 ITEMS OR CHARACTER PER SEASON AND MAKE US EARN IT. THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL THIS EVEN MAKE SENSE. IT WILL ACTUALLY WORK ITSELF OR THAT WAY TO DO WHAT IT SHOULD DO. WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS MADNESS. IS NOT DOING WHAT WE WANTED. IT IS PRETTY MUCH GONE BE THE BIG TRANSMOG TEASE. IF YOU WANT TO GET MORE MONEY OR IF IS IS GONNA BE FROM CONTENT OR VERY VERY COOL NEW ARMOUR IT GUN ORNAMENTS. WE AIN'T GONNA PAY TO MAKE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE A VISUAL UNLESS IS REALLY CHEAP LIKE$10 UNLIMITED OR$1 PER 5PC SUITE. OR$10 FOR 10 SETS. PEOPLE WON'T PAY$10 FOR A SET MAYBE BUT THERE WON'T BE NEAR AS MANY, IF THIS IS ABOUT MONEY YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE LOOKED AT AS GREEDY BATARDIAS UNLESS YOU BE VERY REASONABLE ON THIS BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE FREE, IT SHOULD BE YOU GUYS FINALLY FIXING A MISTAKEN DESIGN FOR IN THE ARMOUR BECAUSE I HAVEN'T EVER PAID IT HAD TO EARN THIS KINDA OF THING. IT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT GETTING OTHER GAMES. I WON'T PAY BUT$10 FOR UNLIMITED TRANSMOG IF I EVER PAID ANYTHING. I HAVE CAME CLOSE TO BUYING A SUIT THAT WAS NEW SPECIAL LIKE WEREWOLF, IF THEY WERE ONLY$10 YOU WORKS SELL WAY MORE, IF I WAS GONNA PAY FOR ORNAMENTS IT WOULD BE THAT KIND SOME SOME REGULAR CRAP, WE WANT TO TURN EVERYTHING INTO ORNAMENTS EXCEPT A CRUCIBLE BUILD, RAID BUILD, PVE BUILD, MAYBE A SPECIFIC BUILD FOR GAMBIT OR GM TOO. THAT LEAVES US WITH 5 SLOTS FOR EXOTICS PER ITEM. BUT WE NEED ABOUT 10 POER SLOT THIS FIRST SEASON. THAT'S 150/ACCOUNT TOTAL. JUST TO FIX YOUR MISTAKE IN DESIGN. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY OR WORK. WE AREN'T THAT BORED THAT WE WANT TO WORK FOR SHADERS USAGE OR TURNING WHAT WE CAN WEAR INTO ORNAMENTS. YOU MAKING IT LIMITED SO WE STILL WON'T HAVE WHAT WE WANT COMPLETE VISUAL CHOICE FREEDOM, THIS WHOLE NEWS FEED IS ABOUT CONTROL NOT FREEDOM. DON'T BE STUPID PLEASE

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            • Turd as always Never expect anything

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              • It's time to bail. Y'all did this. I never wanted microtransactions. I wanted a videogame, not a cashshop. I'll pay for a game, but not microtransactions. You want this system? Then that's what they'll give you. Game has changed. They've made it into a mobile free to try version with microtransactions not associated with the game. I'm just here to play a game. This is not it. If you like it, stay and let them milk you. If you don't, it's time to bail. This game won't change, it's a Milking Cow. I also want transmog and shaders, but not like this. Let's bail. It's time to go.

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              • [quote]I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] The actual armour shouldn't be costly to convert to an ornament but the complete opposite. We should get scraps of something after doing that but have to warm 4 different chains of crap I'll just keep my armour instead, we need to be able to convert all that's on our slots in day 1<‘[url=http://www.example.com][/url]

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              • Stop giving these people money.

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              • There is no goodwill here. Only Greed.

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                • Best twab of 2021 so far. The cap is a little bit pants, but the rest looks great 👍

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                • [quote]I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] They may as well not even as TRANSMOG if they'd how they intend to do it. I mean i already have 15/20 ornaments on each character. I thought we could free up about 5/7 things per slot instantly by just testing them down to ornament form. But only after a labor act from hell and then only 2 suits let character per season. What good is that???? Zero

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                • Bungie did this to protect the loot value of armor. Especially now that sunsetting is gone. If they allowed unlimited transmog, there is very little to stop most players from just taking one set of armor and endlessly leveling it up.... ...while all other armor just becomes raw material to be turned into ornaments. Bungie made this mistake in D1wuth weapon reforging/re-rolling and it nearly destroyed the loot value of the game’s weapons. People just sat in the Tower and fed the gunsmith currency like he was a slot machine.

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                  • Garbage in. Garbage out.

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                    • [quote]As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] The problem is that whoever makes the calls told them to do what is to be taken place. You said it yourself... [quote]however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information[/quote] And their deliberate poor actions are why they have done this. Bungie refuses to take responsibility for their own actions because they don't care about the player base even though they pretend to. if they did care the stupid childish game they play manipulating the player base would stop, but have they in the last 4 years? Nope. It's interesting to look back at the Halo franchise that made 5 billion. Hmm, how did they do that without an Eververse???

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                    • [quote]I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] So basically your max is gonna be 2 sets of armour per character per season. That's not even like adding TRANSMOG that's like saying is with it. I won't earn it.

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                    • At least they have one of the bounties capturing zones in control. People can actually play the objective and get rewarded lol!

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                      • [quote]I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] I think we should have to ride 10 laps around europa for each bullet. We should have to pay $20 power heavy shell. And charge us to make our armour that's 5 years old only be in one set. Wtfaygt?

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                      • [quote]I'm using this post as an opportunity to object to the bad-faith business practices that are going to be implemented next season. The "Synth" material system is exceedingly limited, and very transparently designed to milk money out of the player base. This mindset goes entirely against the stated reason of allowing players to have more freedom with in-game appearance. Furthermore, the amount of disregard for players this move shows is simply astronomical, Bungie is not Amazon or Google, who treat their users as numbers who generate money for them! Bungie should be better than this! If it was at all possible, I would be sending a very strongly-worded email to bungie, however; they have made every effort to obscure their contact information, and offer no way to file official complaints (which is sleazy in it's own way, but outside the bounds of this post). I do not believe the staff member(s) who approved this change have the appropriate player-focused mindset, and instead are too focused on the bottom line for their department, or for the company as a whole. As such, I believe these staff should receive official write-ups, or be let go from their departments, or from the company. Bad faith business practices will not bring Bungie forward into the future, instead only alienate its customers.[/quote] Omg, none of us WANT TO WORK OUR ASS OFF OR BE LIMITED OR HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR ARMOUR LOOKS CONVERTED INTO ORNAMENTS, YOU IDIOTS HAVE FOCUSED THE WHOLE SEASON ON MAKING IT A PAIN IN THE A S S TO EVEN HAVE THE ORNAMENTS, TO HELL WITH ADA1, ADD NEW FORGES ADEPT FORGE GUNS, BUT DON'T MAKE THIS IT WHERE TRANSMOGS A -blam!-. WE WERE HOPING TO JUST BE ABLE TO TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN INTO ORNAMENTS EXCEPT 2/3 BUILDS, LIKE INSTANTLY FIRST DAY BULLSHISE. NOT HAVE TO WORK OUR ASSES OFF ALL SEASON TO ONLY BE LIMITED TO 10 POWER SEASON, THAT'S SAME OLD BULLSHIT CONTROL FREAK THINKING. I AM ABOUT TO JUMP SHIP PERMANENTLY. I'VE HAD ENOUGH, CONTROL FREAK ISSUES BY WHOEVER IS MAKING THIS GAME. YOU ARE RUINING IT AGAIN. ALL WE WANTED WAS TO BE ABLE TO EMPTY OUR DAMN SLOTS UP. I'M GLAD THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THESE DAYS. YOUR GONNA LOSE GROUND AGAIN AND BECAUSE YOU WON'T GIVE US WHAT WE WANT WITHOUT MAKING IT A PAIN. MAKE LARGER STORAGE MAKE OPTIONS FOR BLUES TO BE TORN DOWN, LISTEN BUNGIE!!!!! WE DO NOT WANT TO WORK FOR TRANSMOG BENEFITS, WE JUST WANT TO TEAR DOWN LIKE 7 PIECES IN EACH SLOT I ORNAMENTS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY CARRY THE RIGHT STUFF WITH US AND EMPTY THE VAULT SOME. I AIN'T ABOUT TO GRIND FOR ORNAMENTS THAT ARE SAME LOOK AT WHAT I'VE GOT ALREADY. MAYBE FOR THE OLD RAID GEAR ORNAMENTS BUT NOT ANYTHING ELSE, REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO EVEN DO THAT. THIS IS YOUR WAY IT TRYING TO MAKE US THINK WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN CONTENT IT SOMETHING!!!!???? NOT MENTIONING VOG OR WITCH QUEEN????? THIS IS A ROUSE?!!? #**

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