After playing Gambit and getting buzzed by EoT every time I even tried to counter an invader, I came to realize they don't really care about Gambit balance anymore. So why keep Sleeper nerfed? Just stepping out into the open with it and firing a charged shot is a death sentence against EoT. Maybe you get lucky and kill them too, but that's not guaranteed.

Nerfed because of Gambit yet Truth, Xenophage, Eyes of Tomorrow etc runs rampant leads you to believe that Gambit is an afterthought now.

Found an old replay I kept from D1 the other day... I was fighting the Psion Flayers, charged a sleeper shot and hit one then moved behind a box, charged another shot and moved back slightly too quick, ricocheted *perfectly* off the corner of a box back into my face for the kill. God I miss those shenanigans and I miss having a reason to use that thing, especially since I got the catalyst just before the raid lairs and whisper mission got sunset... if they'd just make it usable again I'd actually be inclined to go get those 500 god damn kills with it.

Agreed. I got the catalyst just before szn 12 but there’s no need to use it

atleast it should be able to spawn warmind cells, its a warmind weapon for c sake

Just disappointed I slept on wrapping up the catalyst.

Just buff lfrs altogether

Honestly forgot it existed

Boycott Crucible in Season 13.

What's that? Bungie can't hear you over them nerfing Swords.

It does decent damage already, I'd be happy with able to hold more ammo.

It needs larger reserves a larger mag size and a slight damage increase for direct hits and give back its original damage when landing ricochet shots with divinity its actually a valid strategy shooting ricochet shots. A side note both sleeper and outbreak should spawn warmind cells with sleeper being a guaranteed cell

I actually would love to see sleeper buffed. Give it a 15 or 20% damage buff and increase its charge rate ever so slightly so it can go toe to toe with slugs and snipers. While on the topic of linear fusions, the rest should be demoted to special slots. However, the only thing that is very dangerous with putting them in the special slot is that it would plague crucible. They are much easier to use for long range sniping than actual snipers. So perhaps leave them in the heavy slot but give them a damage buff as well.

If much rather have the catalyst.

See the TWAB this week? This is the TWAB they addressed major buff and nerfs since Sunsetting was introduced. If you truly play D2, the time stamp/expiration date a.k.a. "infusion caps" in your guns and gear did not show up this season. The infusion caps started last season before Beyond Lite launched. Since that time, this is the TWAB that they addressed a major switch in the sandbox meta. Again. Guess what?... Powercreep is an effing lie... Sunsetting is an effing lie... This is about them switching the sandbox Meta again! And yes, linear fusion may be next. You know why?... Because Bunyon!!! Nobody is using the effing gun archetype because they effing nerfed it a couple years ago! If they buff it next, I'll effing laugh my head off to the bank!!! Because I'm not playing this effing 💩pile of LIES!!! What's next after Linear Fushion?... Heavy Machine gun?...a reissued one from the Forge that everybody wanted and missed?...😂 What's next after that?...😂 Low usage. 😂😂😂 Izanagi came out...low usage. So they buffed it. Then everyone is using it, so they nerfed it!😂 Powercreep my butt crack!!! Xenophage came out...sub par. Probably low usage. So they buffed it. Then everyone used it!😂 Powercreep my butt crack again!!! Now rocket launcher. Looking at you Eyes of Tomorrow. Word on the street is it hasn't shined yet. Guess what...😂 You get a buff! It's probably your time to shine! But it's locked in a raid! The only new raid they have for the entire year! Guess what?...😂You all go grind it this time. Even the new light who wants it, you gonna buy it. Where?...in Beyond Lite BS!😂 Sh°t, I can see this from a mile away!!! Powercreep my butt crack! Sunset my dung hole! All lies!!! Effing all about the Money!!! Rotating Meta in front of your giant Hamster Wheel while you throw your effing money at the screen!!! 😂😂😂 Sh°t, what a game! Bunyon, can you see my middle finger?...It's there!

Haven’t used sleeper since D1. It’s been sleeping

I like where you are headed. If sunsetting is our destiny, it only makes sense that exotics be eternal. Each one deserves its own catalyst at this point. Note to bungie... I will grind for days if you would honor the Monte Carlo.

Alot of people already crunched the numbers on rockets (DOT) with charged of light and the ordiance mod on top of the buff..... Swords even with the 15% nerf will still be more viable and xenophage. Sooooooooooo.... no I will still not be getting my wakets weady!

Id like to see a LFR buff, well except for Arbalest of course I wouldn't mind them being made special weapons including sleeper, give it a bigger mag with a little less damage and charge time

I am gonna tryout sleeper on Atheon when he gets here