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Editado por Fal Chavam:
12/31/2017 3:42:45 AM
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Question of the day.
The very first thing I thought of after defeating panoptes: Is he really dead?
(Severe Oryx discussion flashback)
Anyway, there is a couple reasons I ask this. One of those reason is, we fought panoptes [b]inside[/b] the simulation. I don't mean to be that guy, but maybe what we killed was just a simulation, or maybe it wasn't.
However, point 2: let's assume Panoptes WAS really destroyed. In theory, could the vex not just make a realistic copy of Panoptes in the simulation and take it over. Sagira said the simulations were real enough to kill you. If they can make a realistoc copy of almost anything, why not a replacement Panoptes?
And if they're afraid of the simulant Panoptes being immediately found, could they not just alter it slightly so it would take just a little more time to find? Alternatively, could they not just make a bunch of simulant Panoptes?
Possible explination for that could be something along the lines of Panoptes being a special case in terms of simulating, or maybe a simulated Panoptes can't take control of the simulation.
Bonus question: So if the stuff inside the simulation is realistic and act like they would in the real world, could the things inside theoretically leave the simulation? If they could, would that maybe explain where the vex get their plethora of troops?
However, that would also mean the vex actually have controlled simulant Fallen, Cabal, and maybe hive leaders.
However(x2) maybe that is exactly how Panoptes dark future came to be. Total annihilation from within would be a game ender.
But, the more likely stance on that is the simulated stuff can't exists outside the simulation becuase they require power from it or something like that.
Props to the person(s) who can enlighten us on this subject.
Sincerely,
Fal Chavam.
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Editado por foxburton99: 1/2/2018 4:41:50 PMThe Vex run by logic and order, meaning they will not create a simulated Panoptes just because the real one died. In real life you can’t just go “oh it’s dead, poof here it’s back” so the Vex will not being themselves to do it is ven in a simulation. That is the one real weakness they seem to have; a lack of imagination. As for there being multiple simulated Panoptes running around in the Forest (so that if one dies there are still plenty of others), it would be advantageous to have a Panoptes in every time line to make sure it survives, BUT the Vex would not do that because it would cause clutter and cross-planning and more than one of the same Mind existing in the same timeline may not fit Vex standards. We also know that the Vex can enter the Forest just like us, and since it’s easier to manage things from the inside it’s obvious that the Panoptes we killed (and possibly all the other Vex within the simulations) is real It is possible that in the future the Vex may build a new Mind to run the Forest or try using another Restorative Mind (if they have anymore), but Panoptes really is dead [i]Answer to bonus question:[/i] The simulations exist within the minds of the Vex, so although they may have the intelligence to try escaping the Forest, as soon as they find the real portal out (because there are almost definitely simulated exits) they will cease to exist because they are simply a mental image, just like a dream or a thought
