The amount of bright dust in the world affects ingame play. More experience, more bright engrams, more bright dust to buy fireteam medallions to use for more experience and higher chance at exotic gear. Throttle Earned xp secretly and ppl will use real world currency to try and offset that. You know this, you just think it's all ok. So, now we've changed our arguments from "cosmetics only" to "but they don't really do anything". Really? Next step will be: "but games aren't free and they can't pay bills if they don't secretly throttle xp in hopes of selling xp buffs using real world currency." This entire time, Bungie has sold fireteam medallions and deliberately neutered them by as much as 96%. As Luke Smith says "throw your money at the screen". Go ahead, defend them. I won't. I see it clearly.
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In a game where everyone is complaining about the game being "too rewarding" and everything is "too easy to get"..... ...and where there is no level advantage in any of the PVP activities. ...and where Three of Coins will be re-introduced next week. Sorry, but your point is all sizzle-and-no-steak.
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I make no point, other than what I stated. You keep on living in your self defined subjective world.
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What subjectivity? You made the claim that bright dust impacts game play through fireteam medallions and drop rates. I pointed out that your statement---while technically true----was a toothless tiger. 1. The community is largely complaining that the game is TOO rewarding, not that the loot system is too stingy. (I haven't bought a FT medallion. Ever) 2. Even if someone were to progress faster using them, they gain no competitive advantage. Level advantage is turned off in both Iron Banner and Trials of the Nine. 3. Bungie is about to return Three of Coins to the game next week. So there argument that the medallions unfairly affect exotic drop rates is no longer really an issue, since 3oC will almost certainly not be purchasable with Silver or bright dust.
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Once again, I state a fact. You state opinions, beliefs.
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[quote]Once again, I state a fact. You state opinions, beliefs.[/quote] There is a lot useless meatbags that do that.
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Editado por TheArtist: 12/8/2017 8:10:32 PMThen you have a word definition problem. My points 1-3 are facts. My conclusion---is the only opinion. If we were still playing Destiny 1, where exotics were hard to come by....and Trials and IB still had level advantage.....you'd have a valid argument. But the fact is that we arent'...
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Editado por Springer: 12/8/2017 8:51:17 PM1 is not a fact, as you don't speak for the "whole community", neither do I. You have REPEATEDLY stated the ppl who complain here are the "vocal minority". You don't know the community. NOT a fact 2 is not a fact either as you keep trying to refine your argument. First it was cosmetic only, then it was no ingame effect, now it's "competitive advantage". Only thing I've said all along was Eververse sells items using real world currency that give performance boosts and greater chances at exotics. Ask 100 ppl how best to use that system and you will get 100 different answers but the system IS in place. 3 is only a fact when 3oC are returned. They haven't and they aren't in place NOW, nor were they in place the last 3 months of game play. You know nothing Jon Snow.
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Swing and a miss. Point #1 is a statement of fact, that can be proven to be true or false by simply polling the community. If you disagree feel free to prove me wrong. Point 2 is a fact. The reason why people object to Pay to Win monetization schemes in multiplayer games is because they allow players with money to BUY competitive advantage over players without. That was the biggest objection to what EA did to Battlefront 2. Only the problem is that there is no such advantage. You can't buy weapons or armor directly...and leveling up faster doesn't give you any competitive advantage, because PVP level advantage has been turned off. 3. I said that....which you would have realized if you had actually READ what I wrote. But even though it wasn't in place the last three months....NO ONE is complaining that exotics are too hard to obtain. In fact they're complaining that they're too easy...and people are sick of duplicates. Which circles us back around to my conclusion----which IS opinion. Your argument isn't persuasive. The game is generous enough that a single trip to the tower will show you that no one is paying out silver or using bright dust to load up on fireteam medallions. No one's complaining that loot is too hard to come by....and there is no competitive advantage to leveling up faster...because level is now MEANINGLESS in PVP iin this game. Like I said, if this were D1....you'd have a viable argument. But Bungie clearly got out ahead of this accusation...and shutdown all the possible ways they could be accused of Eververse being "Pay to Win".
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You create the poll, you're the one who stated she speaks for the community and knows what the majority believe. Good Luck with all that assuming. I'll stick to facts, you're great with opinions and beliefs. Fact - Eververse has in place now a system that uses real world currency for in game performance boosts and greater chances at exotics. It says it right there ON the fireteam medallions. lol. Undeniable fact.
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[quote]Eververse has in place now a system that uses real world currency for in game performance boosts and greater chances at exotics[/quote] That have no discernible impact on game play... The only place where it still does is on exotic drop rates, and that loop hole is being closed in four days. As one of my mentors once said, "There is a difference between things that are statistically-significant (scientifically true), and things that are clinically-significant (both true and imnpactful). Your argument falls under the category of "[i]statistically significant, but not clinically significant". [/i]
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So, you found Wikipedia. gg. Wait a sec, let me ask what my Sensei says: He say, "People who fart in church, sit in own pew". Mentor, pfft. Everybody has a mentor, some call them pimps, others call them rocket surgeons, heck my mailman is my "mentor" when it comes to all things USPS, etc... And now we're defending Bungie because the pay for system that's in place isn't that big a deal. Unless, of course, you were buying fireteam medallions and having them throttled to almost nothing. Deliberately. I know, I know..., clinically insignificant ppl shouldn't have a voice or be represented. Why? Because, well, they and what they represent are insignificant. Only you KG, your beliefs and those you formulate are significant. All others, clinically insignificant. You do realize, we are talking about ppl here, who have spent monies on fireteam medallions, which Bungie neutered down to nothing, right? People, understand, not numbers. People. Once again, they just aren't that important, let me use your phrase, they aren't that "significant". In the big picture that is. Well played.
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Stop using facts, you'll make his head hurt