[quote]EDIT: YOU WANT MORE PROOF? BUNGIE YOU DONE -blam!-ED IT UP!!! ONE JOB YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-osssAKgEc [/quote]
Edit 2: You know its kinda funny that the bug was on a PS4... I guess PlayStation gets everything first... even the bad news.
I know there's a lot of justified... lets call it emotional overreaction... going on over Destiny. Since well Bungie promised one thing and delivered something quite different, this however isn't something new to Bungie veterans, there are actually some stark parallels to one of Bungie's most beloved of all time games Halo 2.
Go back and play the story, complete and utter rubbish, 343i might not be able to balance a multiplayer or, create diverse mission objectives, but the narrative present in Halo 4 is well told, for something that was... well bound by the constraints of Halo 3, and its.... well again lack luster story. In fact I'd say Bungie isn't really good at telling a moment to moment story, OH they can create a wonderful universe that OTHER people such as Eric Nylund, Greg Bear, or 343i have told amazing stories in, But Bungie... Out of the 5 Halo games they've done, only 2 of them have decent stories Halo 1 and Halo: Reach. Moving forward Halo 2 and 3 had horrid multiplayers until many patches in.
BUT WHAT EXACTLY am I getting at? I'm sure some will disagree with me, one thing you can't disagree with is this isn't the first time Bungie has shown us one thing, and delivered something completely different.
Ladies, Gentlemen, Exos, and Vex, I present to you Halo 2 E3 2004.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_y3cbIV-Xg[/url]
And Destiny E3 2013 Sony Press Conference.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtcO4ptp2j8[/url]
These two Showing are almost beat for beat the same showing, no really. They run through and area that looks to be in the game, they make bad jokes, and finish with a trailer that represents NOTHING in the final game.
Don't worry I took Notes.
I wont go Over Halo 2 its well documented that NOTHING in that made it into the game.
So E3 2013 Sony Press Conference:
0:00 The entirety of this mission.
1:14 The ship Drops the Player off, in a cinematic fashion at the beginning of the mission.
2:12 Fire Team member drops off ship.
3:51 Taking out your Ghost for light when you need it, not when the game decides you need it.
3:52 Snarky banter from your Ghost.
4:37 More interesting banter from the Ghost in that Game of Thrones 'We have Peter- Mother Blaming!- Dinklage'
Also at 4:37 Pulse Rifle Primary(In a scout body leading me to think at onetime they were the same gun class, which makes sense, since they do the same thing in this game.)
And a Hand Cannon Secondary (Which I honestly think it should be because the -blam!-ing thing is useless as a primary in PVP (and if my experience differs from yours congratulation, however 90% of PVP is Shotguns and Fusion rifles, 5% AR's and 5% OP Warlocks... For me that is.)
5:53 Crit Markers, I like this more then the yellow damage.
7:05 Boss Loot Drop and loot tables, also Loot that seems more Class use, Sniper for the Hunter, and Lightning Chain-gun for the Warlock.
7:27 HIGH LEVEL LOOT YOU CAN USE WHEN YOU PICK IT UP. None of this engram shit. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I distinctly remember engrams at one point being an option, not a necessity. EXAMPLE: If I pick up an engram and take it to our favorite blue bastard, I would have a CHOICE between an item of that type but possibly a lesser rarity, or I could role the dice and get something better ( Hence why he has a rank, the more you used him the better your role was to be. Again I could be wrong, but I wanna say at one point it worked that way. )
7:44 The Rolling Thunder Ability on the ThunderLord.
7:56 Weapon Dropping?
8:13 Sniper or Fusion Rifle Heavy? ( The hunter is seen with a Pulse/Scout rifle when fighting the Devil Walker.)
9:00 More Player Ship Joining.
9:19 Leaving One Mission, and seamlessly going back into the world, not going to orbit.
11:38 Conversation with the Speaker Explaining ANYTHING.
11:48 Opining a Door.
11:49 Meeting "Crow" in Old Russia and the " This is how we talk in the wild."
12:01 Saturn.
Lets see what else? Where are the Swamps of Old Chicago? Or The Ice Fields of Europa? Or the Shipyards of Saturn?
Oh don't get me wrong I get that things change during development, that's a year or so old build of the game... STILL I'd like to think content is changed for the better of a game, not the worse.
Moving forward to a few other, yet related things.
I don't have any proof of the legitimacy behind the climes, but apparently a Reddit user posted an interesting plot outline for Destiny's "original" plot. I dont have the link BUT you can read it in this Angry Joe Video at 20:20.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gwQ2S1xSz0&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ[/url]
I'm inclined to believe this, considering the E3 demo, and MANY of the Codex Cards you unlock, key ones being The Black Garden, and the one found in the Seraphim Vault, which 99% of the community wont have access to.
Speaking of.... WHY can I glitch into: ( I own none of these videos.)
The Seraphim Vault:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiaodSkKUmk[/url]
The Jovian Complex:
[url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqznLrRB14Q [/url]
Kings Watch:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnOnYNENa-s[/url]
And this is just what I know about ON EARTH.
Fully realized areas, ( Kings Watch has LvL 20 enamies and a "Boss" even.) behind essentially locked doors, but I can't play any of this content. I Haven't been to the Jovian Complex myself, but I have recovered the Ghosts from the Seraphim Vault, and Kings Watch. What's the deal Bungie? Cut content to be sold back to us under your Season Pass? Content that was simply cut due to time? (Doubtful Ghost are there) or FREE update story content. I'm sure EVERYONE would like to know.
Destiny is a mess. A mass of bad development choices, BLATINT LYING to the fans, and apparent CUT content to be SOLD back to us. We DEMAND answers Bungie, if you have planned FREE story content then show us, what is the schedule for content that we can expect OUTSIDE the Season Pass, or is this is a chopped up half game, that you THOUGHT we would be content with. That things like the Queens Wrath would sedate us into complacency, with the same weak rewards for replaying the same 3-4 story missions over and over and over again.
PS: If you know of other content like the Kings Watch, The Seraphim Vault, or The Jovian Complex. Post it with links to YouTube.
PSS: [url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzopWRXK_r4&index=2&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ[/url] Angry Joe Revew, the guys spot on.
PSSS: Because Peter Dinklage [url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVozGXbn2Y[/url]
PSSSS: Phantasy Star Universe, called from 2006 and wants to know how a game in 2014 can come out with less content then a game from 2006?
PSSSS: Bungie I dedicate this song to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeaGJRV-whU
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ermahgerd ui place holdrs!!!11!1!one!elevenednoscopezdudez!
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21 OdpowiedziSon, the amount of ignorance you exhume despite your inflated false sense of intelligence is literally giving me a headache. I could spend the next two hours tearing down every piece of your argument with factual basis your opinionated argument lacks, but we all have better things to do. So please put down your keyboard and live you life quietly so you won't make yourself look like an idiot to every person in these forums.
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4 Odpowiedzi[quote]its halo 2 all over again[/quote] LOLWAT?
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11 Odpowiedziso you played more than 120 hours and are complaining about lack of content.
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15 OdpowiedziBioshock Infinite did this Nobody cares. DOOM Didnt have much of a story. Nobody cares. Destiny ACTUALLY CHANGES during development and has not much of a story. Everybody loses their godamn minds.
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1 OdpowiedźI'm just gonna leave this here for you. I both laughed and cried when I (re)read: [quote]and shared a number of locales we can look forward to visiting: the Cosmodome Breach, the ruins on the edge of the European Dead Zone, the swamps of Old Chicago (likely a nod to Bungie’s original home city), derelict fleets floating in the rings of Saturn, the earth Moon’s Hellmouth, the uncharted depths of Reef, giant obsidian pyramid ships, mile-long tomb ships, and much more.[/quote]
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4 OdpowiedziThis thread on Reddit helps us understand what happened to the story of Destiny. It was definitely gutted and an all together different story before Joseph Staten and Marty O'Donnell left Bungie. Not sure if Antivision is to blame, but something happened, and it wasn't good. Now as the consumer, we have to suffer. http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the/
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6 OdpowiedziI understood what was going on in halo 2. I'm completely lost in Destiny, I've read Grimoire cards and kept up with the story. And yes, the footage from halo 2 wasn't accurate with the game, but they didn't make false promises with Halo 2. But I agree with most of the other stuff you said.
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[quote][quote]EDIT: YOU WANT MORE PROOF? BUNGIE YOU DONE -blam!-ED IT UP!!! ONE JOB YOU HAD ONE JOB!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-osssAKgEc [/quote] Edit 2: You know its kinda funny that the bug was on a PS4... I guess PlayStation gets everything first... even the bad news. I know there's a lot of justified... lets call it emotional overreaction... going on over Destiny. Since well Bungie promised one thing and delivered something quite different, this however isn't something new to Bungie veterans, there are actually some stark parallels to one of Bungie's most beloved of all time games Halo 2. Go back and play the story, complete and utter rubbish, 343i might not be able to balance a multiplayer or, create diverse mission objectives, but the narrative present in Halo 4 is well told, for something that was... well bound by the constraints of Halo 3, and its.... well again lack luster story. In fact I'd say Bungie isn't really good at telling a moment to moment story, OH they can create a wonderful universe that OTHER people such as Eric Nylund, Greg Bear, or 343i have told amazing stories in, But Bungie... Out of the 5 Halo games they've done, only 2 of them have decent stories Halo 1 and Halo: Reach. Moving forward Halo 2 and 3 had horrid multiplayers until many patches in. BUT WHAT EXACTLY am I getting at? I'm sure some will disagree with me, one thing you can't disagree with is this isn't the first time Bungie has shown us one thing, and delivered something completely different. Ladies, Gentlemen, Exos, and Vex, I present to you Halo 2 E3 2004. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_y3cbIV-Xg[/url] And Destiny E3 2013 Sony Press Conference. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtcO4ptp2j8[/url] These two Showing are almost beat for beat the same showing, no really. They run through and area that looks to be in the game, they make bad jokes, and finish with a trailer that represents NOTHING in the final game. Don't worry I took Notes. I wont go Over Halo 2 its well documented that NOTHING in that made it into the game. So E3 2013 Sony Press Conference: 0:00 The entirety of this mission. 1:14 The ship Drops the Player off, in a cinematic fashion at the beginning of the mission. 2:12 Fire Team member drops off ship. 3:51 Taking out your Ghost for light when you need it, not when the game decides you need it. 3:52 Snarky banter from your Ghost. 4:37 More interesting banter from the Ghost in that Game of Thrones 'We have Peter- Mother Blaming!- Dinklage' Also at 4:37 Pulse Rifle Primary(In a scout body leading me to think at onetime they were the same gun class, which makes sense, since they do the same thing in this game.) And a Hand Cannon Secondary (Which I honestly think it should be because the -blam!-ing thing is useless as a primary in PVP (and if my experience differs from yours congratulation, however 90% of PVP is Shotguns and Fusion rifles, 5% AR's and 5% OP Warlocks... For me that is.) 5:53 Crit Markers, I like this more then the yellow damage. 7:05 Boss Loot Drop and loot tables, also Loot that seems more Class use, Sniper for the Hunter, and Lightning Chain-gun for the Warlock. 7:27 HIGH LEVEL LOOT YOU CAN USE WHEN YOU PICK IT UP. None of this engram shit. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I distinctly remember engrams at one point being an option, not a necessity. EXAMPLE: If I pick up an engram and take it to our favorite blue bastard, I would have a CHOICE between an item of that type but possibly a lesser rarity, or I could role the dice and get something better ( Hence why he has a rank, the more you used him the better your role was to be. Again I could be wrong, but I wanna say at one point it worked that way. ) 7:44 The Rolling Thunder Ability on the ThunderLord. 7:56 Weapon Dropping? 8:13 Sniper or Fusion Rifle Heavy? ( The hunter is seen with a Pulse/Scout rifle when fighting the Devil Walker.) 9:00 More Player Ship Joining. 9:19 Leaving One Mission, and seamlessly going back into the world, not going to orbit. 11:38 Conversation with the Speaker Explaining ANYTHING. 11:48 Opining a Door. 11:49 Meeting "Crow" in Old Russia and the " This is how we talk in the wild." 12:01 Saturn. Lets see what else? Where are the Swamps of Old Chicago? Or The Ice Fields of Europa? Or the Shipyards of Saturn? Oh don't get me wrong I get that things change during development, that's a year or so old build of the game... STILL I'd like to think content is changed for the better of a game, not the worse. Moving forward to a few other, yet related things. I don't have any proof of the legitimacy behind the climes, but apparently a Reddit user posted an interesting plot outline for Destiny's "original" plot. I dont have the link BUT you can read it in this Angry Joe Video at 20:20. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gwQ2S1xSz0&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ[/url] I'm inclined to believe this, considering the E3 demo, and MANY of the Codex Cards you unlock, key ones being The Black Garden, and the one found in the Seraphim Vault, which 99% of the community wont have access to. Speaking of.... WHY can I glitch into: ( I own none of these videos.) The Seraphim Vault: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiaodSkKUmk[/url] The Jovian Complex: [url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqznLrRB14Q [/url] Kings Watch: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnOnYNENa-s[/url] And this is just what I know about ON EARTH. Fully realized areas, ( Kings Watch has LvL 20 enamies and a "Boss" even.) behind essentially locked doors, but I can't play any of this content. I Haven't been to the Jovian Complex myself, but I have recovered the Ghosts from the Seraphim Vault, and Kings Watch. What's the deal Bungie? Cut content to be sold back to us under your Season Pass? Content that was simply cut due to time? (Doubtful Ghost are there) or FREE update story content. I'm sure EVERYONE would like to know. Destiny is a mess. A mass of bad development choices, BLATINT LYING to the fans, and apparent CUT content to be SOLD back to us. We DEMAND answers Bungie, if you have planned FREE story content then show us, what is the schedule for content that we can expect OUTSIDE the Season Pass, or is this is a chopped up half game, that you THOUGHT we would be content with. That things like the Queens Wrath would sedate us into complacency, with the same weak rewards for replaying the same 3-4 story missions over and over and over again. PS: If you know of other content like the Kings Watch, The Seraphim Vault, or The Jovian Complex. Post it with links to YouTube. PSS: [url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzopWRXK_r4&index=2&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ[/url] Angry Joe Revew, the guys spot on. PSSS: Because Peter Dinklage [url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVozGXbn2Y[/url] PSSSS: Phantasy Star Universe, called from 2006 and wants to know how a game in 2014 can come out with less content then a game from 2006? PSSSS: Bungie I dedicate this song to you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeaGJRV-whU[/quote]
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7 OdpowiedziI had read there was content on the disc that was locked till the DLC. I would just like to say what a load of horse shit this is. I own the disc there was no disclaimer saying i don't get to use or play all the content on the disc. It's globally understood that the content on a disc is your in its entirety It does not matter if is a CD,DVD or game disc. Activision is doing everything in there power to completely destroy Bungees name and reputation.
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Just a real quick question of the Day. SO... The PS4 version of Destiny uses the light bar to communicate things, Flash Light, Low Health, Full Health. This was developed, tested SOMEONE WAS PAYED FOR THIS... And yet... The net code likes to act up like a troubled child on crack... And the Cryptarc is Color Blind.... So let me know in the comments below, WHAT is your favorite feature in Destiny, and which one leaves you scratching your head going... Wait You ACTUALLY developed this? And Let me know What you would like to see. What I love: The VoG What confused me: The light bar. What I would have liked to see: Trading
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Whom ever is monitoring this thread as moderator im sorry. Its not your fault.
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16 OdpowiedziBump the shit out of this. One time Bungie, just once, someone come out and address this shit somehow. Talk to your fans and at least tell us that this was the plan all along. Give us some real response to the massive community that's pissed. All we want to know is if this was truly what you guys were shooting for. When the finish date rolled around and you all stepped back, Didn't someone at the studio go "You know what, I think we really dropped the ball." Or were you guys like "Omg this is it, this is our magnum opus and it's everything and more". Because if this is your version of a "Gold Stars public event" then many of us think we have a good right to feel let down.
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All of this? I agree with.
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The only thing I can agree with in this rant is that hand cannons would be better served as secondary weapons. Most of this stuff is easily explainable. The Chicago area was told to be a concept area. Bungie said it might not make the original game but could come at a later time. The opening area was used as a demo area. Lots of game do this. They use an existing area to show off content that is not related to the actual game play. Edograms and how loot is picked up changed, it happens. Developer determined it was a better system for one reason or another. This does not mean they screwed up. You may or may not like the changes but it happens. Just because a section of the game world is built doesn't mean they are keeping content from you. Writing, missions, and story and combat balancing still need to occur for those areas. It isn't uncommon for developers to build and block off a part of the world. It could be intended for future use to reduce turn around on dlc but that doesn't mean the content of the dlc has been created or intended to be part of the game. It is possible that destiny had a more in depth story that they had trouble incorporating or completing once the lead writer left. It could just be they didn't like the direction of the story and decided to go another way. While this could be a negative impact it could have been a positive as well. We simply don't know since we didn't get to experience it.
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Bump forever
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the only thing I can agree on is that Bungie promised one thing and delivered another. Yes, Destiny was not "exactly" what I expected, but Bungie leaves the doors open for much expansion(s). The fun factor however is excellent, and it's an astoundingly better game than Ghosts or Diablo, (which most of us were forced to play due to the lack of game titles on XB1) Destiny is the result of the best of a bad situation? Definitely; but they've only got plenty of time to balance and fine tune the game and content they deliver us. Bungie is listening to their fans, not so much Activision.
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8 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika SILVIOHITMAN: 9/29/2014 1:09:09 PMmaybe the content will be unlocked as soon as they finish it...maybe it will be free...if not well...it's hard to defend...
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I agree with every point you made. But i don't think it takes away from the fun factor of the game. It is still a very enjoyable game. I mean no disregard when saying this, but I can see how someone who has played it as much as you can get easily burnt out on the game and the current "lack" of content it has. I do agree that bungie needs to come out and make a PSA about the games current state and where it is going. I'm not sure if the collective community will even adhere to anything more that bungie says but it'd still be nice to hear if bungie can recognize the disappointment their community is displaying.
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Good thing they added a dislike button to these crybaby posts.
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3 OdpowiedziThe game is fun... You guys love it thats why your on the forums talking about it. Suck it up! enjoy what you got or go play something else.
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3 OdpowiedziThe game was overhyped. The game was underwhelming The game didn't live up to the hype But its still fun It's still enjoyable And [u]it's just a game[/u] So get the hell over it [u][b]everyone[/b][/u]
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In one of moreconsole his videos you could clearly see on the map of venus that there were 7 story missions. Not five
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did u see all the new leaked dlc its 100% real from the last bug patch some people saw all destinations bungie -blam!-ed up
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3 OdpowiedziYou had me Rollin in tears with that phantasy star universe joke! Hahahaha