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6/15/2021 7:19:09 PM
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Lets agree gambit needs a re-work
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11 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika sideswipe: 6/18/2021 1:57:48 PMThe people that refuse to bank with 13 motes when the team only needs 3 to spawn the end boss, they need to be banned for being a $&@!? And then they end up dying and you have get the motes yourself... the other team that doesn’t have F$&@)! on their team, ends up getting their bossed spawned and wins... so infuriating
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14 OdpowiedziSo many more people would play if they balanced invaders...like just once. No wall hacks and actual risk to invading. That's all they need to do. They can have heavy, they can have the shield...but man you need to work a little bit for kills.
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Blockers shouldn't drain the bank I'd also make meatball do less damage currently its a bit much.
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Took out a sentinel mid-super after dodging two shields throws and a shield bash and countering with two shotgun blasts. Honestly felt bad afterward.
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3 OdpowiedziHeavy needs PvP like regulation considering how easily it can swing matches Dropping from AI should just never happen.
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[quote]title says it all[/quote] It doesn’t though. YOU just don’t like it.
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At the very least a couple new maps
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2 OdpowiedziHonestly, the one thing I would change would be something to stop boss melting. There have been many games where my team gets 1 invasion in before it's game over. Possible "fix".... Portals are guaranteed to open at certain health points and the boss goes immune for 10-20 seconds to give an invader time to get through the portal. Once through the portal immunity goes away in 3-5 seconds. I would still have the portal open on a time schedule like it does currently, this change would just guarantee portal openings based on health as well. I'm sure there are other ideas, but I think at a minimum the portal should open when enemy boss crosses certain health bar points. Having it on a timer just doesn't give you a chance sometimes.
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the system rewards need reworks.
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I wish the mote clean out mechanic was taken out. I have teammates who ignore the taken a lot before its too late, they all get 15 motes and then we get invaded. Either the clean out mechanic needs to go or put a limit on how many taken blockers can be on the enemy side.
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2 OdpowiedziI don’t play gambit That mode is trash for so many reasons
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1 OdpowiedźWould be better if it was just removed. Why would anyone want to play a game mode with “catch up mechanics”.
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1 OdpowiedźThe team that summons primeval first shouldn’t be able to invade until the other team also summons there primeval.
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7 OdpowiedziGambit is the best in its current form. 1 round, no teleporting witches, quick boss burn in the middle. OG Gambit was best of 3 which lead to alot of quitters. Boss would change positions alot and had more health.
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3 OdpowiedziEverything that makes gambit suck is caused by a bad bounty system that makes players do dumb s&@t. Watching a dude get dropped holding 12 motes on an invade cause they’re not smart enough to hide makes gambit suck. Watching a dude not bank when all we need is 3 motes because they absolutely NEED JUST ONE MORE for a medium blocker makes gambit suck. Watching a dude do nothing but sit around the portal and do nothing but invade and not help kill adds makes gambit suck. Watching dudes try to invade with weapons that suck for invading and die within seconds of entering the portal makes gambit suck. I’m good with the boss melting. If players are smart enough to gear and create synergy they deserve that outcome
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It needs to be removed
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Rework as in remove it to make space for something better.
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3 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika FLAMINGDOG2000: 6/16/2021 11:07:02 PMI’m not gonna say gambit is perfect but the reason it’s so crap is because you get teamed up with people who don’t understand how to play the game mode. For example u have enough for an invasion but ur teammates decide to get 15 notes then u get invaded and they die then people come to the forums to complain how bad the gam mode is.
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1 OdpowiedźI'd settle for the enemies being less tanky & over tuned.
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I’ll agree D2 as a whole needs a re-work. Mostly pvp and gambit. Honestly we just need D3. D2 has spent its life trying to get back to being more like D1. The only thing they seem to get get praised for is fixing stuff they screwed up either intentionally or unintentionally. And for putting D2 back to a D1 state.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika GRAVEL: 6/17/2021 3:52:50 PMFor me -it would be one invade per teammate. If you don't like to invade your teams only going to get three! It makes each invade more important. Keeps the team strategy important while also prioritizing the PvE of the game mode. That's Gambit to me. (If all you want to do is invade... go play pvp) Could you imagine the possibility of a Gambit game with no invaders? Sounds like a pleasant [i]possibility[/i] to me compared with what we have now.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Corrick II: 6/17/2021 3:48:48 PMI totally agree. For me it’s simple. Strip all the “adjustments” to damage and enemy HP. Take away the invader shield. Make it so everything actually does work like the rest of the game, like Bungie always claims they want to do when they defend balancing across game modes. And fix mote collision. I’ve never seen something clip into walls or the floor as much as those stupid motes. Most importantly, [i]stop[/i] nerfing weapons because of Gambit. It’s an outlier. It should [i]never[/i] be a reason to balance gear. Sleeper and Truth were victims of Gambit and never should’ve been nerfed.
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2 OdpowiedziBelow there was a good point - there ought to be a cost to invade, make it more of a risk vs. reward decision (and by cost I mean more than the temporary loss of 1 teammates damage output). Perhaps you need to be carrying a certain number of motes to use the portal and then more motes equals more invasion time. If you die as an invader the motes you brought auto bank to the other team. When you invade the AI shouldn’t ignore you either. There should be more locations that you spawn into the other side to make it harder for the other team to find you upon invading. May also be interesting if there were more than one kind of mote to collect (think light and dark motes in prophecy) and banking the different kinds would give some sort of control over the type of blockers. More dynamics would just freshen the mode up. Like what if you could choose to consume 10+ motes for a a chunk of super or ability energy? Or maybe you could slam motes into blockers to do massive damage and clear them faster, for the cost of those motes. Perhaps high value targets drop super motes that let you bank 20 or 24+ for a special blocker but once you’re past 15 your movement is slowed and you’re debuffed until you bank. Ways to make you think more about the economy of motes, how to use them and when. Other things would be new prime evils, and/or adding some simple mechanics or damage phases to the encounter so it’s not an instant melt. Imagine something like Crota where you need a sword bearer to initiate a damage phase for example. Design maps with 2 banks to defend, where banking spawns blockers at the corresponding bank on the enemy side (so, new maps of course). If a teammate goes down have a short timer where a percentage of motes he was carrying could be recovered. Give us reasons to work as a team and revive each other. Sorry this got long I got a little carried away. Just a few ideas *shrug*
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Edytowany przez użytkownika shwabbywabby: 6/17/2021 3:16:50 PMComing from someone who’s hated Gambit since it first came out I actually can sort of stand it now. The only thing I would do is get rid of anything this gives the boss a overshield. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been doing damage to the boss, fire my super at them just to have them suddenly immune and my super do nothing. It’s just frustrating.
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3 OdpowiedziReckoner here. This is the best it’s been. I do miss the armor specific roles. Crushed me when I deleted the sets but it’s not as grindy now and 3 weekly matches is done in less than 30 minutes for the pinnacle. The only issue with “broken” is the breach and clear with the titan missile chest piece. Can melt the boss in 30 seconds. One will be nerfed next season and the other is a seasonal mod. Next season it’ll be something new.
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Yhea gambit is at an even worst state than it was before... Too much yellow/ultra enemies,enemies spawn is worst than before,still way too easy to steamroll,matchmaking is horrible ,ammo drop and enemies RNG can easily make you lose(scorn keep teleporting)need way too much point to rank up while bounty barely give anything and for some reason at legend lost doesn't give any point Boss are a joke and can be melted by abusing seasonal mod are bug bungie just decided to kept in after they fix it once....terrible bounties(seriously 25 melee and grenade kill) And I didn't even talk about invasion,the lag and the no brain tracking weapon while you get an overshield and see through walls..... Fix gambit or sunset it
