I haven’t had a fun balanced match in PvP in probably 5 months. Not a single one. I don’t do PvP that much but out of 150 PvP matches you would think a few of them would have been fun but nope. NOT A SINGLE ONE. Every single one was nothing but sweat lords abusing stasis or abusing blade dancer top tree dawn blade before stasis. Nothing but meta douches everywhere. Nothing but fireteams covering flanks and coordinating like they have a family members life on the line. Nothing but massive lag and cheaters and exploiters. 75% of matches are one sided blow outs. Either you are going against unkillable gods who play this game for 8 hours a day or they are on your side running around slaughtering the whole enemy team making the match boring. Either way the match is never fun or balanced or rewarding.

The Chaperone is 1000x worst than Felwinter’s. The real problem is that everybody has a god rolled shotgun and everybody also knows just how good it is thanks to YouTube and [i]this very forum[/i]... Or just maybe the real problem is people keep complaining over and over and over that they can’t outmaneuver a specific weapon like little biotches. 🤣

Hey calm down stasis is just for ppl to get free kills. Felwinters is for full on crayon munchers.

If they were to remove the freeze mechanics and mini game, the Crucible would be in a lot better shape. What was going through their minds, to allow this in PVP?

Look! Another post complaining about crucible but also mentioning jotunn for some bizarre reason lol https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/257971571/0/0 Sorry your input is invalid, and you clearly lack the experience

Honestly more crazy fun this way. Sick of the standard meta. We move away from snipers and there is a way to punish apes. Stop rushing. Felwinters needs to be addressed, or bring back Original erentil to counter.

Crucible is what it is! Today was meh so I logged off....ypu have a choice. Jotuun has been around forever, easy to counter.

Shotguns aren’t even the problem tbh they only kill because of positioning,though quick play is ass atm there’s nothing but metaslaves with crimson,last word,and fusion rifles,you’ll see the occasional shotgun and arbalest but yeah,stasis isn’t even that annoying unless you’re aping or getting insta killed by melees. We do need a ton of balances still though,sure there’s always a meta but sunsetting made it even worse,the only thing we need su set are pinnacle weapons. I think a good way to fix all this is to make shotguns have like a range limit and buffing fusion rifles but turning them into a heavy,also high impact pulses are amazing but they’re not as easy as crimson it kills to easily and same goes for last word,I don’t think they need straight up nerfs but they do need reworks i mean people only use last word in pvp because it’s hella op and same goes for crimson,I mean no one uses them for pvp and fusion rifles just shouldn’t be special at this point I mean being able to insta kill at primary weapon range without a single need for crits? Yeah that’s op,le monarque is op too I mean it leaves you like at 1-20 hp in one shot after the poison? Needs to be toned down. We need a ton of balancing and we also need dedicated servers but without the latter no one will be able to take D2 pvp seriously I mean the meta isn’t as horrible as last season but it can definitely be improved I mean they could at least make pvp and pve have separate sandboxes. The pvp in this game is full of potential but the developers seem to treat it as an afterthought even though pvp players makeup around half of the player base if not more,tons of people play for pvp and leave because of it. I mean you can look up anything on destiny and nearly everything will be about pvp,trials is in an abysmal state as well,more so than quick play since we don’t have any real anti cheat or DDoS protection,I personally feel like we could be getting so much more from destiny’s pvp if we just got a real team to work on it,I know tons of people like me who do raids and other endgame activities just to use the loot on crucible. I think we can all agree that pvp needs fixes and they would be welcome,if we had a pvp focuse season that would be amazing specially if they added quests with pvp mixed with raiding and things like that it would push people to do both,.

Felwinter, absolutely. But Jotunn and Telesto? Come on. Jotunn is cheap and annoying but it's not overpowered, still rarely seen. The people who hate on Telesto are the ones who ape and mindlessly run into its explosives, then send messages calling people "Telesto trash"; in reality, its consistency should be the benchmark for Fusion Rifles, because they have not been in a good place for a long while now.