For a intellectual you don't know that warlocks in D1 were the superior class and were borderline OP. Titans were second best as the could titan skate across the map and shotgun you. Hunters were the third. I'll explain it to you Hunters have higher base agility. Titans have higher base resistance Warlocks have higher base recovery. Now that class abilitys have been added you can have a 10 second dodge... WITH A TIER 10 Mobility. That means you sacrifice a large amount of the other categories. Warlocks in d1 were op as hell Warlocks in d2 are getting a taste of what titans and Hunters got in d1. This is all however in PvP. I'm PvE all classes are only as good as their guardian... Although warlocks are still the easiets with the right setup. Titans have a few rolls that benefit people and Hunters have a dedicated super to a support role. Unfortunately people are always going to be upset the dodge makes you go invisible and yeah. People will always complain But the whole point of the vanishing step is its linked to 1 super... Most Hunters use the spectral blades, arc staff and goldy. Nothing can be done without seriously messing with the hunter again and that's not going to happen again. All classes now are balanced and since armour 2.0... You can adjust to your playstyle. Its not the class, its the added tiers from the 2.0 armour.

[quote]I, an intellectual, do not discriminate against the Crayon Eaters or the Rolly Bois. [/quote] Words that only a Warlock could proudly say.

Thought warlocks would've stopped crying after bungie reworked their beloved melee. Guess not, still 10,000 posts from them

When the world wakes, this topic will be down voted into the ether. Warlocks will remain the least used and underpowered in PvP. No one cares.

Warlocks have always been the weakest class in anything, since d1. You need to get a better game

Haven't drank enough coffee for a serious balance discussion. But dear lord I absolutely love top dawnblade for pvp sniping specifically. By far the best / fastest horizontal movement set in game. Get to lanes first, make instant distance to apes without effort. Good odds at disengaging / taking cover. The mini missiles and bolt grenade's both good for sniper body cleanups. A very decent and mobile dueling super. Still prefer the hunter when shottie aping for the fast vertical mobility coupled with good horizontal mobility. But my days is burst icarus dashing into enviromental damage a wonderful feeling. ... guess a titan can always main Meme Business with Actiumeme rigs?

The first part was funny, the rest of it is...subjective. Having shoulder charge on 3 subclasses does NOT mean diversity nor is it the most lethal thing in the game. Theres a reason bottom tree striker is so popular and it's because, unlike most other titan skill trees, it has a neutral game that doesn't completely DEMAND kills to activate. Knockout and the charged melee are easily the 2 best close range perks in the game because they offer so many valuable benefits while not putting you in disadvantage like shoulder charge does and if you DO kill them with said melee, boom health regen. All of the shoulder charge skills trees offer meager bonuses besides top tree striker and they suffer because their neutral game sucks. As for your comment on nova warp, its charge time is about the same as an adaptive frame fusion with liquid coils (about 0.70) and it's a circle of death. It has damage fall off that prevents it from killing guardians at it edges but it can wipe most guardians inside the range it offers. You want to talk about bad aoe, use fist of havoc and watch people just jump away when you are close enough to suck the crayons out of their pocket. And for the rest, golden gun has no damage resistance because its hitscan and fires insanely quickly which makes it hard to approach with pretty much any super except for arc strider with the spinny boi. It's a very lethal super for countering supers and it's very quick because of said hitscan. Speaking of spin boy, the spin, unlike the titans guard is unbreakable. Sentinel shield guarding drains super energy from high powered attacks like heavy, supers and special weapons. So for certain things it is better and for certain things its worse. The shoulder charge aoe only does 91 damage. It quite literally can't kill another player at full health unless you have synthoceps on and the biotic enhancements active. Its radius also isn't the largest either. Sunbreakers hammerstrike burns because of melting point and because watching things burn is funny. Sentinel suppresses...because I guess they wanted it to do that (it was the worst of the 3 because it did literally nothing beforehand). Titans might be the masters of the crayons, hunters the masters of floor, but warlocks are the masters of drinking coffee.

Warlocks at the start of D2 was ok Well super and luna boots made them OP The resulting nerfs to everything a warlock had except the bone thrown at them (top tree dawn) has made warlocks a joke to play... why use a warlock anymore? Anything they had the other classes can now do better, might as well shelve my warlock main and go (throws up a lil) play Hunter as main

Top tree dawn is by far the best sub class in the game