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Edytowany przez użytkownika god2kill:
1/19/2020 3:38:53 AM
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Maybe address this Hunter issue...
I use Titan. Because I like it. I like the play style. And I’m not one to complain... but come on... how can you not see a disparity between the characters? Go into comp... what do you see? Hunter, hunter hunter... vs... hunter, hunter, hunter.
I decided to go for all the pinnacle and ritual weapons because I had nothing better to do. But seriously... how could anyone have EVER complained about one eyed mask? That’s a joke right? Go into comp. and all you see and hear is swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe.... it’s absolutely pathetic.
Hunters have the most agility, the fastest movement, the highest jump, the most control in the jump, invisibility, dodge for quick movement as well as to break tracking, an insanely long super for ALL the supers... how could anyone ever say a titan or warlock is over powered or has an exotic that makes them overpowered? That’s completely pathetic. Even one eyed mask at its height didn’t come close to how stupid easy, spammy and cheesy a hunter is.
All I’m saying is... maybe Bungie should actually acknowledge this completely 1 sided playlist. There should be a relatively even split between the 3... and there is absolutely the hunter dominating any comp activity. There’s a reason for that. And it’s irritating. I don’t care if you like the class. Fine. But if I throw hammers, I can throw like 7. A hunter shouldn’t be able to swipe 1,000 times and stay in their super for 45 minutes. It’s absurdly overpowered. And I mean ABSURDLY.
[I’ll give this a quick edit].
Maybe I wasn’t clear in my original statement. Let me clarify... i don’t mind Hunters being focused so heavily on mobility and evasion. It’s fine to me, if it’s fair. Meaning the other 2 need to be focused on their attributes. Warlock is doing extremely well with it’s in air dodging and it’s grenade consumption and rift power ups and all that. But it’s still weak compared to hunter. And the Titan isn’t any more of a tank than the hunter and warlock. Both can be spec’d to tank the same amount of damage. But the titan cannot reach the same level of mobility and maneuverability as the hunter. The Titan cannot eat grenades and float forever or do multiple dodges. What I’m saying is the warlock is about 50% playing to it’s strengths. And the hunter is over 90% playing to it’s strengths. But the Titan literally does nothing that the other 2 can’t accomplish either identically, or better than the Titan. Go ahead and leave the hunter as is, but buff the warlock a little and the Titan massively. Or else nerf the shit out of the hunter. It’s completely overpowered and there’s no way anyone can dispute that.
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika Hazuki: 1/19/2020 9:10:26 PMIn PvP Hunters take less skill to start off than the other classes, but they have a higher skill ceiling than the others, meaning there's more potential reward in the long run. The journey of learning how to play them is longer, but more rewarding. It's kind of like how Fox is always going to be powerful in Smash as a whole; he just has the tools that fit the competitive scene's wishes. Nintendo respects that and knows no matter what Fox is gonna be a pillar in each installment in the franchise. So they save themselves the trouble of ruining Fox and focus on improving the game. I'm pretty sure Bungie feels the same way, if not similarly to, for Hunters. Hunters are just fundamentally set up for success. In competitive scenes for games the faster archetypes of characters tend to be the most effective and Destiny is no different. That's not to say Titan and Warlock are weak, it's just that far more often than not Titans and Warlocks aren't as evenly effective across the board as Hunters are. That being said they can be quite formidable if they find their groove.
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20 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Cosmic Owl: 1/19/2020 1:46:27 AMI think Titan supers last longer than most of all Hunter supers except for the use of two exotics that extend arc staff and void blade. And no, OEM at its height literally allowed you to play like you’re brain dead and still do very well. Hunters are very good no doubt, but spend some time playing one, some real time, not just one or two games, and you’ll see that not everything is as it appears to you.
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Anytime I see a Titan being a snowflake over a Hunter I laugh so hard I can’t think straight and then wonder how far that weighted knife got wedged up the Titans arse for them to turn into such a pansy
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5 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika G0lden Hunt3r: 1/19/2020 8:32:05 PMYou were wrong on 90 % of the things. Sure hunter have the most agility. But titans and warlocks have the fastest movement speed and manouverability in the air. Titans have the longest lasting supers...with middle hammers at 28 seconds... Hunters longest super is spectral at 17 seconds while invisible...14 if not invisible. Arcstrider lasts 12 seconds. 7 seconds if blocking.
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6 OdpowiedziI mean you guys had oem and bottom tree striker for over a year.
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Which hunter clapped you?
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So, how many Hunters have you killed? https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/254987470/0/0
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I'm a hunter main, and I admit that the dodge recharge is too fast, and stompees are broken as hell.
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2 OdpowiedziThe reason hunters are so popular doesn't just come from their mobility, but actually a lot of their skill trees have benefits that are incredible for crucible. Bottom tree arc strider, dodge for damage resistance, move faster and by doing so recharge your dodge faster, then when you are critical temporarily charge your abilities like 3x faster. Spectral blades has true sight and invisibility on headshot kills while crouched, which also extends the base melee range and applies a melting point effect. Plus smoke is the best utility melee in the game for crucible. Damage, slow, disorient, blind, cripple and it lingers. Its like all the cc you hate in a moba packed into a singular ability, of course you still have to use it properly. Gunslinger has top and bottom tree which grants benefits just for shooting a target in the head and benefits afterwards with regards to bottom tree which gives stability for an extendable period of time. Plus now both melees are incredibly useful for crucible. And let's not even kid ourselves with the class ability either. Hunter dodge does so much more than simply moving you, it disables the tracking of any ability that relies on tracking, any rocket that relies on tracking, aim assist, shifts your hitbox and isn't exactly slow. Plus with the battery mods that are clearly designed for hunters, they get all of that but now timing it correctly can make you survive hits from supers. Then we pair ALLof this with the many exotics they get for their dodge that are good like worm husk, dragons shadow and so on. But I'm literally not even done, then they ALSO get the choice of fully restoring their melee ability or reloading their magazine of the weapon in hand. AND it's also the fastest charging class ability in the game. There are obviously downsides to every class but there is so much versatility in hunters that the things they lack they can just ignore because of the other benefits they get. I personally think that hunters take the most effort to use effectively but sometimes it's just ridiculous.
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8 OdpowiedziLol golden gun lasts 10 seconds and top tree tether is just one shot. Hunters actually have the least amount of control in our jumps because it is the most predictable jump. And hunters are supposed to be the fast and mobile class, so we have abilities to match. And you're blind if you think oem wasn't a problem.
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Whats this? A titan is complaining? Bruh you think hunters are bad? Trying to finish the crucible bounty that requires me to kill warlocks usually takes 3-5 games because the crucible is filled with hunters and titans
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5 Odpowiedzi[quote]But seriously... how could anyone have EVER complained about one eyed mask? That’s a joke right? [/quote] Opinion safely discarded
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17 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika RTshadows: 1/19/2020 1:19:01 AMI stopped reading at the OeM
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Literally everyone on the forum: My class is so weak and the other two are super broken and there's nothing I can do
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70% of PvP players use hunters because mobility is constantly useful, while recovery and resilience are extremely situational.
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2 OdpowiedziYou're forgetting the 1 huge perk that titans have, 9/10 heavy ammo pickups are titans because of the barricade. So most rounds in comp you can get 1 free kill every time.
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Just deal with the fact huners are the best.
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Hunters have a lower skill to get into. Doesn’t mean there worse then any other class. When you master them, every top thier player can still play every other class to almost the same ability. It’s would be the most stupid thing to make them the same. It would be so boring, and I’ll have nothing to change or master
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6 OdpowiedziAnd to all who will reply that there’s nothing wrong with hunters and blah blah blah. Yeah. That’s exactly what everyone said about using female characters and big rig Dizzy in Gears 3. Because everyone wants to protect their precious advantage. And then it’s admitted that the smaller characters have smaller hit boxes and have a major advantage. It happens in video games all the time. That’s fine. Shit happens. I get it. And if it stays that way... then fine. But it’s complete bullshit for people to keep pretending that it isn’t true, all because you don’t want to lose your advantage over everyone else. Hunters have the absolute best abilities, grenades, mobility, jump, strafe, weapon handling, melees and super spams. They outclass both the classes in every way. Exactly why hunters are played almost exclusively by nearly EVERY streamer or people who carry others through pvp. This isn’t news. Everyone knows it. But everyone wants to ignore it. Titans and warlocks are pretty level right now. But hunters are still stupidly more potent in every way. It needs to be addressed.
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I just like capes. 🤷🏻♂️ Hunter was my main since d1 day 1, I transferred to d2 and have no reason to switch. I love the leap of doom Titan class, but they don’t have capes so I don’t play them. And I hate pvp. I’m actually quite pissed off that this season is forcing pvp in the main quest. That crap needs to stop. I always use the single shot tethers because I only pve. 🤷🏻♂️
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[quote]I use Titan. Because I like it. I like the play style. And I’m not one to complain... but come on... how can you not see a disparity between the characters? Go into comp... what do you see? Hunter, hunter hunter... vs... hunter, hunter, hunter. I decided to go for all the pinnacle and ritual weapons because I had nothing better to do. But seriously... how could anyone have EVER complained about one eyed mask? That’s a joke right? Go into comp. and all you see and hear is swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe.... it’s absolutely pathetic. Hunters have the most agility, the fastest movement, the highest jump, the most control in the jump, invisibility, dodge for quick movement as well as to break tracking, an insanely long super for ALL the supers... how could anyone ever say a titan or warlock is over powered or has an exotic that makes them overpowered? That’s completely pathetic. Even one eyed mask at its height didn’t come close to how stupid easy, spammy and cheesy a hunter is. All I’m saying is... maybe Bungie should actually acknowledge this completely 1 sided playlist. There should be a relatively even split between the 3... and there is absolutely the hunter dominating any comp activity. There’s a reason for that. And it’s irritating. I don’t care if you like the class. Fine. But if I throw hammers, I can throw like 7. A hunter shouldn’t be able to swipe 1,000 times and stay in their super for 45 minutes. It’s absurdly overpowered. And I mean ABSURDLY. [I’ll give this a quick edit]. Maybe I wasn’t clear in my original statement. Let me clarify... i don’t mind Hunters being focused so heavily on mobility and evasion. It’s fine to me, if it’s fair. Meaning the other 2 need to be focused on their attributes. Warlock is doing extremely well with it’s in air dodging and it’s grenade consumption and rift power ups and all that. But it’s still weak compared to hunter. And the Titan isn’t any more of a tank than the hunter and warlock. Both can be spec’d to tank the same amount of damage. But the titan cannot reach the same level of mobility and maneuverability as the hunter. The Titan cannot eat grenades and float forever or do multiple dodges. What I’m saying is the warlock is about 50% playing to it’s strengths. And the hunter is over 90% playing to it’s strengths. But the Titan literally does nothing that the other 2 can’t accomplish either identically, or better than the Titan. Go ahead and leave the hunter as is, but buff the warlock a little and the Titan massively. Or else nerf the shit out of the hunter. It’s completely overpowered and there’s no way anyone can dispute that.[/quote] Look out boys, A hunter can jump up straight in the air, come down slower than a feather getting thrown off a building and it’s ground breaking. Pls nerf bungo
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4 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Pyro 509: 1/19/2020 10:30:14 AMHold on now, I play comp all the time and am often 1 of only 2 hunters on my team. In fact, I’d say most games we only make up 1/2 - 2/3 of the lobby! Ok so what, there are a lot of hunters in comp, and sure as a hunter I would rather not go up against a team of 3 hunters, but that’s not to say I’m going to enjoy going up against a team of 3 titans shouldercharging all the damn time, or 3 warlocks tossing around hh novas the whole match. Honestly though, OEM was broken and there were more titans last season than this season - mainly because of the artifact mods plus OEM but regardless it was an issue. I would also like to point out that stats have been made universal and you can now be just as fast as a hunter with a titan or a warlock by maxing your mobility, and warlock has built in twilight garrisons now lol I play all 3 classes, I love all 3 of my characters, but I followed bungie for years while they worked on this secret project after splitting from Microsoft and as soon as I saw & read about all 3 classes, I knew I was going to be a hunter. Been a hunter main for the life of this game and I would just like to finish this reply by saying thank you, thank you for noticing how bad ass and OP us hunters are 😊 it really means a lot when another class main makes a hunter master race post 👍 Edit: if you had stompees and got used to playing with them on, you’d never take them off too, regardless of how amazing or how badly you might want to use other cool exotics
