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8/6/2019 4:27:25 PM
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Something wrong with this picture on mercury
If you do the a garden world mission/strike, you can notice what I believe to be a complete traveler in the distance, and on one of Osiris’ prophetic weapons, he predicted the traveler’s reawakening.
But here’s the thing:
How could Osiris predict this? We see the traveler in the infinite forest, which of itself, should be impossible, as the vex can’t predict the light. Secondly, while it is mentioned on another prophetic weapon that Osiris may have other means of predicting the future, we see in the comic that the machine Osiris uses, is vex-based(just a note, I don’t know how cannon the comics are, just figured it would be worth mentioning)
If anyone has any explanation for this, please say so in the comments.
Also, here’s a link for the traveler on Mercury
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The Traveler was there at the time. The Vex can’t simulate the powers exactly (i think), but they can simulate a giant smoothed golfball floating in the sky.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Grays_KS27: 8/7/2019 8:26:48 PMThat’s a simulation of the past, when the Traveler first arrived in our solar system and was completely intact. Specifically, it was a simulation of the Vex arriving on Mercury and beginning the conversion of the planet’s surface immediately after the Traveler terraformed it (before Humanity made contact with the Traveler on Mars). The Vex can’t simulate the Light, but they can replicate past events and make imitations of things like the Traveler and Oryx, but without their powers. Anyone could have predicted the Traveler’s reawakening, it doesn’t mean Osiris knew it would happen. It was common belief that the Traveler was in a slumber. Naturally, most people guessed that it was either slowly dying (it was slowly dying until the Hive ritual on the Moon was stopped and the Black Heart was destroyed), or that it would eventually wake up again. Of course, it’s possible that Osiris saw potential futures where the Traveler awakened while he was studying the Vex and/or in the Infinite Forest.
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It's supposed to be a replay of the past, the traveler in the simulation is more of a empty husk that is redoing what the traveler did originally Don't worry, I had the exact same reaction first time I saw it
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The vex can simulate light, they just can't do it accurately...
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1 OdpowiedźThe Vex can Simulate giant floating balls, but not the Light they generate. Which means it’s [i]literally[/i] part of the infinite forest’s skybox.
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Who said the Vex are simulating the Light here? It’s just the Traveler. No Light included.
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3 OdpowiedziWild theory alert. Okay if you look around Nessus for a solid 5 seconds, you’ll notice a very large amount of spherical objects. These look very very similar to very early concepts of the Traveler. Seriously, go look it up. Anyways, these things are everywhere, and the Vex are very good at terraforming planets, but only in the image that fits their design. So why do they use it so much? Maybe it’s just a cool environment from Bungie? But I think this goes deeper than we are digging. Hold onto your butts. If you go back and play the Black Garden mission in D1, you’ll find yourself in the big arena right before you enter the final area with the heart. There are two scans that you must perform in order to progress, as you scan the second one, your ghost seems to have a realization, saying “of course, it all makes sense now”. That line always bothered me because it sent the vibes that the ghosts were somehow related to the vex. Jumping into D2, there’s an adventure on Nessus where you jump on various platforms in Artifacts Edge. While doing this the Vex try to ‘save’ your ghost from you. They fear you and send a hydra to ‘bring the ghost home’. This was spooky. Now it could have just been the vex failing to realize that it was a ghost communicating with them. But the Vex are very smart and I don’t think that’s the case here. Now there’s some spooky things that don’t really amount to much but these lines of dialogue and the design of these environments seem very deliberate. The Traveler is a Gardener, a terraformer. Just like the Vex. If the Vex are simulating the past as it happened, then they were there as the Traveler finished Mercury’s garden. This would have happened before the Traveler got to Io and before the collapse. So during the Golden Age. Or just before it. We also only see architects, no combat frames. Could the Traveler have created the Vex in order to help it terraform planets? And it just lost control after a conflict with the darkness or another enemy? I think that explains why they can’t simulate light, but can simulate the Traveler. If you were a God who created an almighty race of robots who build endlessly, would you want them to know how you built them? I wouldn’t. Especially now that they’re rampantly converting planets. All but the one the Traveler is on. I think this also explains the ‘evolution’ of the precursor vex frames. They slowly degrade from the silver to the brown look. Just some facts that I’ve noticed that all seem too coincidental to leave alone. Wild theory over. Thoughts?
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1 Odpowiedź<The same reasons why the Vex have Guardian models. Pretend the Vex are people and the Infinite Forest is SFM or Blender. The Vex are extremely skilled with both, but suddenly a new asset comes in and they try to work with it. They figure out how to do basic movements but nothing else. Take that and make it permanent and you have the whole deal with Vex and Light/Dark. The opening cutscene of VoG shows Guardians, but freezes when they start using Light. You could chalk that up to Osiris's intervention, but given their normal predicament when simulating Light, it's possible that always happens, same with Dark. The shell of the Traveler is just neutronium and electroweak matter, perfectly simulate-able. What it DOES is a different story.>
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2 OdpowiedziIsn't the Garden World strike\mission taking place in the past, before Mercury was transformed completely?
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They can simulate the Traveler, just not accurately what the effects of the Light are capable of.
