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6/7/2019 4:27:08 PM
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Several thousands of players would diaagree with you.
Plenty of players still play. All of them would easily acknowledge the current flaws of the game. Yet they still play and enjoy it.
The forums is the only place I've seen this much negativity surrounding the game. Again, your assuming you know how those actually playing feel. Or rather your trying to tell them how they should feel about a game they enjoy.
Pretty much all major AAA games follow the same model.pump out content, reuse a bunch of it, do very little to change how it looks, call it new. It's called reusing assets, and it's done constantly, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.
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[quote]Several thousands of players would disagree with you.[/quote]Several million players would disagree with you. [quote]Plenty of players still play. All of them would easily acknowledge the current flaws of the game. Yet they still play and enjoy it[/quote]Playing a game does not mean they are hyped and excited for repeated content. I enjoy the game too, that doesnt mean I have to pretend I'm happy the content they're offering is once again reused and reskinned and I'm hardly alone in that. [quote]The forums is the only place I've seen this much negativity surrounding the game. Again, your assuming you know how those actually playing feel. Or rather your trying to tell them how they should feel about a game they enjoy.[/quote]All over social media the response has been the same, go rewatch the twitch reveal and take a peek at the chat. I assume I know how those players playing feel? Yeah. I am one. I interact with many. I see even more all over voicing the same things and actually calling bungie out instead of meekly accepting whatever scraps bungie see fit to reuse. [quote]Pretty much all major AAA games follow the same model.pump out content, reuse a bunch of it, do very little to change how it looks, call it new. It's called reusing assets, and it's done constantly, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.[/quote] No dev. Not one. Reuses content as much as bungie have. If only I could resell things to my customers they bought previously. If only all a car company had to do was toss some paint on thier old model and call it new. If only more people out there allowed companies to walk all over them the way bungie fanboys do.
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Every game developer reuses assets. All the time. Any dlc for any game ever has been reused assets. Any sequel ever has reused assets. That's how things work. You can't speak for the millions of people who dropped off Y1, the people who stopped playing cuz they played their fill of the game. Your distaste/dislike of the game content isn't the same as everyone else's. Again, the forums is the only place I see this much and this kind of negativity. No where else do I see it.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Haunter: 6/7/2019 4:44:45 PM[quote]Every game developer reuses assets. All the time. Any dlc for any game ever has been reused assets. Any sequel ever has reused assets. That's how things work.[/quote]4th time I've said this. No dev. Not one. Reskins and reuses as much as bungie do and have. They honestly deserve to be in the dictionary under recycled content. [quote]You can't speak for the millions of people who dropped off Y1, the people who stopped playing cuz they played their fill of the game. Your distaste/dislike of the game content isn't the same as everyone else's.[/quote]I cant speak for [u]every[/u] player that left no. But millions left because of bland, stale and repeated content. This is further evidenced by how many people said this exact thing when asked by popular streamers triple wreck and true vanguard about why people weren't playing d2. Boring. Stale. Old. No one likes or is excited to fight the same enemies after 5 years. [quote]Again, the forums is the only place I see this much and this kind of negativity. No where else do I see it.[/quote] Then like I said you should rewatch the stream with chat on. Or check out Twitter. Or YouTube comments. Or redditt. Or recognize that many players in game have the same thoughts as people here
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You'd have to prove you millions claim cuz Im willing to bet it's not a totally accurate claim. I am on Twitter and reddit and YouTube. Guess what? Mostly positive reactions, heck I'd say for some over joyed, with some legit criticism and worries being out out there. What you do on here is not criticism or worries, it's strong negativity and hate. As i said, the forums is the only place I see this.no where, and I mean no where,do i see this amount of negativity. Well, besides one YouTube channel I've completely avoided due to my opinions mostly differing strongly from theirs.
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Let's be clear, if bungie actually put in the time, work and effort to pump out a good DLC I'd be one of the first behind them. That means new enemies not reskins New bosses not old ones New weapon and armor models New perks and rolls for those New exotics that have powerful or cool or fun abilities A new planet New strikes A dlc like that would be worth hyping and getting excited for. Reused content? Crota? Gaul? The moon? Hive with spikes? Not so much. Quite the contrary to you if more people actually pushed bungie on those issues the dlc that's dropping might have been [i]a lot[/i] more interesting. Were more people like you we'd still have double primaries, slow movement and long cooldowns.
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If more people were like me they'd be playing and enjoying the game. Ok, let's give this a shot then, give me an example for all those thing you gave. Give/create a race to fight. Give/create a planet to explore. Give/create a story to complete.
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[quote]If more people were like me they'd be playing and enjoying the game.[/quote] And chipping away with 2 primaries. And moving tediously slow And having long cooldowns Unless you're telling me you enjoyed vanilla d2 and coo which puts you in the smallest minorty pool of players in the series [quote]Ok, let's give this a shot then, give me an example for all those thing you gave. Give/create a race to fight. Give/create a planet to explore. Give/create a story to complete.[/quote] Take inspiration from irl for enemies if you want. Make them menacing looking and your set. A new bug like race. Flying rhino beetles, praying mantis bosses, tarantulas. Water creatures. A giant kraken, eels a hammerhead shark raid boss, make them taken for all I care. Rings of Saturn. Uranus. Pluto. A water world that has you traverse underwater facilities. A world with a wasteland of destroyed ships and debris. Any storyline you want, a new emerging threat, the darkness corrupting more races, a distress beacon, some enemy assassinates a tower vendor and flees to said new planet
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Ive enjoyed the game in every form throughout the years. It has/had it's faults, absolutely, but not even for a second did it stop me from enjoying the game..... Well, besides the surprise zavala from warmind. Congratulations, you just made the forsaken campaign with that last bit. Most of those "races" aren't really realistic in terms of the destiny lore/world We have a water world, it's called Titan. The darkness is technically taking over enemy races and changing them (though not drastically from what we've seen), that seems to be the premise of shadowkeep.
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[quote] Most of those "races" aren't really realistic in terms of the destiny lore/world[/quote] Couldn't be further from the truth, there is absolutely no reason those enemies cant come to the destiny series should bungie be interested in putting in some work [quote]We have a water world, it's called Titan.[/quote] One that's depths have never been explored and one that features nothing interesting at all actually. Just a station floating above a kill zone that looks like an ocean [quote]The darkness is technically taking over enemy races and changing them (though not drastically from what we've seen), that seems to be the premise of shadowkeep.[/quote] The premise of shadow keep is something revived our old enemies go kill them again and give us money for bringing old stuff back
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If that's the only thing you've gotten from the trailer/reveal, I recommend watching it once more. There's more hints than just that. The darkness/whatever those creatures the drifter encountered are likely directly involved with what's going on on the moon Expand and build upon titan then, there's no reason not to. Bug creatures really wouldn't fit right in the world of destiny imo. Mind you we did almost have a cat race.
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[quote]If that's the only thing you've gotten from the trailer/reveal, I recommend watching it once more. There's more hints than just that. The darkness/whatever those creatures the drifter encountered are likely directly involved with what's going on on the moon[/quote]Look you may be into this game for the lore but its gameplay that should be the focus. I have zero interest in buying a dlc that's entire purpose is to give us old stuff and set up another future dlc where maybe we'll get something interesting [quote]Expand and build upon titan then, there's no reason not to.[/quote] That will never happen unless they make a dlc soley around it [quote]Bug creatures really wouldn't fit right in the world of destiny imo. Mind you we did almost have a cat race.[/quote] We have turtles, ogres and screebs. I think bugs would fit right in, theyd be something brand new which would excite players and garner interest.
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[quote][quote]If that's the only thing you've gotten from the trailer/reveal, I recommend watching it once more. There's more hints than just that. The darkness/whatever those creatures the drifter encountered are likely directly involved with what's going on on the moon[/quote]Look you may be into this game for the lore but its gameplay that should be the focus. I have zero interest in buying a dlc that's entire purpose is to give us old stuff and set up another future dlc where maybe we'll get something interesting [quote]Expand and build upon titan then, there's no reason not to.[/quote] That will never happen unless they make a dlc soley around it [quote]Bug creatures really wouldn't fit right in the world of destiny imo. Mind you we did almost have a cat race.[/quote] We have turtles, ogres and screebs. I think bugs would fit right in, theyd be something brand new which would excite players and garner interest.[/quote] That's where you and I differ. Sure the gameplay is pretty great, but I'm more hooked in for the lore/story. I'd love for them to build upon the stories and enemies we have currently. Rather than throw them to the side and introduce more. I suppose it would depend on the design of these bug creatures. They could easily make them look bad. A dlc solely focused on it? Like the moon? Expanding on the previous story, continuing stories introduced before hand? Expanding in them? Fleshing out the location more? Basically what they are doing with shadowkeep, but do that to titan?
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[quote]A dlc solely focused on it? Like the moon? Expanding on the previous story, continuing stories introduced before hand? Expanding in them? Fleshing out the location more? Basically what they are doing with shadowkeep, but do that to titan?[/quote]With new enemies? I'd be pleased with that. Weve never seen the depths of titan, we've seen the moon for years. Yeah no I'd have nothing bad to say about it if that were the case
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And it's been stated that a)the moon in d2 is twice the size than it is in D1. And b)the areas we know of will be different due to x or y. What kind of new enemies would you introduce to the depths of Titans facilities?
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You watch aquaman? Those creatures the trench or whatever? That works. The selkath out of star wars works. Some rooms being flooded and having enemy octopus creatures works. That sea creature you sometimes see as a raid boss definitely works I dont mund where bungie grab inspiration for a design, I just want new things to fight
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Eh. I admit it's a cool idea, but, me being me, I'd like to know, story wise, how they'd be introduced, what are they (similar to the fallen? Betrayed by the light? Controlled by the darkness, similar to the hive? Etc.) I'd need story for them and explanation. Otherwise it would just feel shoe horned into the game. However I also doubt it's THAT easy to create, add, and code a completely new and different enemy race into the game.
