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Edytowany przez użytkownika a_dmg04:
5/10/2019 2:22:18 PM
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Buff Thundercrash
It needs a major Boss Damage buff, and a larger blast radius. Nova Bomb does 75% more damage and has 3 times the blast radius. It’s an awesome class already and implementing these buffs would make it one of the best classes in the game.
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192 OdpowiedziIs the only change you'd like to see for the super itself, or do you have any other feedback for the perk-tree associated with the Super?
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18 OdpowiedziYou mean Thundertrash?
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Bump. Its dps output is pathetic.
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5 OdpowiedziAlso, you can't fly very far before it start diving down. I want more range
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Yes please, thundercrash is in such a bad spot right now. After the buffs to fists of havoc a while back, it has always been the superior alternative to thundercrash in PVE. Advantages of using fists (top tree) over thundercrash: - multiple "casts", leaving more shockwaves - ability to spread out damage in an area larger than that of thundercrash - overall better melee ability in regards to damage and mobility A few suggestions for ways to improve thundercrash are to either just outright increase the damage output to compete against something like nova bomb (which serves the same niche), reducing the cast time for the melee ability or grant it an exotic functionally similar to Skull of Dire Ahamkara.
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I hit one of the Taken champions in Blind well with Thundercrash.... And he looked at me like, -blam!- please! Even the ads around him stopped firing at everyone and started laughing at me.... Most humiliating day in my Titans long ass life........
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The Sub Perks I believe are fine but yeah the Thundercrash does need some improvement as it feels lackluster. Some suggestions are as follows: - Increase the super impact damage so it equals or is even more powerful than the super nova as you'll be face first at a foe's sight. As of right now Titans have little to none viability in raids, most times titans will just be used as a Melting point man. Introducing something that does some good damage against bosses / high power enemies will add more potential. - Increase blast radius + higher knock back. What this will do is make it so whoever manages to get some-what distant from the crash will still take some damage from high knockback if not killed if they slammed up against a hard surface. - Have a Debuff effect which staggers + partially blinds enemies so anyone who is in the radius area will be affected.
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8 OdpowiedziThis shouldn’t only apply to pve. In pvp sometimes if you crash into a group of people or a single target, they have enough time to move literally two meters away and thus retain half their health. You then have to finish them off with a weapon or melee/grenade. This isn’t an error in my personal execution either. I’ve seen this happen to fire team members and watched steamers and YouTubers have this same issue.
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Nerf it
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9 OdpowiedziHonestly it should have more damage than nova bomb, simply because it ends with you in the enemies face. Isn't that how it is usually supposed to work, the abilities that have more risk in using them, like having you be closer to the enemy, have the bigger payoff? Some how that was completely forgotten when it came to making thunder crash. I would also like that sliding ability to be replaced. It isn't that I think it is necessarily bad, but it does have bad synergy. For a class that is mostly about sprinting and getting into the air, a perk that is all about sliding on the ground, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. This perk would actually fit far better on the hunter middle tree arc class, since in its case, its melee is also about sliding. Better exotics for it would also be really nice, maybe some for it to more effectively get its super back? Or maybe one that causes blinding with its impact, so anything that doesn't die is stunned for at least a little while. Or one that gives armour after impact.
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5 OdpowiedziIt also needs a range increase. Maybe even get rid of drop off altogether and become Superman
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One extra note for this super is that it doesn't seem to be capable of damaging the scourge of the past raid boss. I have tried to use it on him a few times, just for fun and testing, and so have a few of my friends, but it doesn't seem to make impact. Instead of exploding on the damage point, you basically bounce off of it, and normally end up just orbiting around it until you fall to its feet, where it is immune so you deal zero damage. As far as I have seen, it is the only super that can reach its damage point and yet is unable to hit that point, everything else that can reach, deals damage. This is a rather specific issue, but it is just yet one more example of how bad this super is in PvE, and how ignored it is.
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1 OdpowiedźThe novabomb thing is technically true but not really novabomb does the damage immediately while thundercrash needs the aftershocks thundercrash does about 15 compared to novabombs 20 I forgot the exact numbers so this is just a comparison
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1 OdpowiedźI feel like an earthquake wouldn’t damage you if you’re above it.
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1 OdpowiedźOkay I'm sorry but it has way too large of a blast radius as it is I kill people/AI that are 30-plus feet above me lol and if you're talkin about to your sides that's also very large
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2 OdpowiedziThe nova bomb you speak of is blown apart most times by enemy fire and then is almost useless. Sure, when it hit perfectly it's great... if it doesn't decide to follow an enemy and hit a tree or rock.
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2 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika RAUDRULF: 5/12/2019 8:10:07 AMTitle is coolest PRNSTAR name ever. "Hi, I am Buff... Buff Thundercrash and you are?" *laughs promiscuously* - Oooh me? i am Nova Warp, please to Meet you" "My Love for you intensifies! PICK UP THE SOAP" i can see the posters now! "BUFF THUNDERCRASH wants YOU to prepare your Rift" "BUFF THUNDERCRASH wants YOU to put on the Gwisin Vest" "BUFF THUNDERCRASH wants YOU to give him a Chaos Reach around!" "BUFF THUNDERCRASH will block your blades with his insurmountable sack"
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Imo you should also be able to slam upwards. the thing is absolutely useless against any bosses that float. its embarrassingly bad.
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Nerf bottom trees super, worse than spectral ever was... buff thundercrash.
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika More Power: 5/10/2019 5:37:14 PM[quote]Buff Thundercrash[/quote] What an awesome XBL name!
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3 OdpowiedziAnd remove fusion rifles at the same time. PvP has turned into fusion rifles mode
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6 OdpowiedziYou also trade or die 80% of the time with novabomb. I can't panic a novabomb at 1hp, become immune, and kill someone. Most of the time you just outright die.
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2 OdpowiedziSee this what im talkin about whenever warloks titans fuss about they subclass vungie listen but they nerf spectral how many abilities yall need and that titans arc super speed needs to be nerfed and warloks titans jump heights need to be fixed or die if u glide to high
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Give it an initial explosion from the force of taking off. Make that explosion damage enemies and buff movement and weapon speed for allies. Perhaps a modest buff for damage since you now have two explosions but need to start next to a boss to make them take full damage. Could be the most epic uppercut since the dragon punch.
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All that needs to be done is the following. Buff the damage of the super exponentially. Make the melee ability one shot a little more consistent. There's a lot of stop and wait time before the actual impact, making it more skill intensive than unga shoulder charge. Inertia override only needs a timer so I can know how long I have on the buff. Also add an extra second or 2 so I can use inertia in more primary gun fights. And lastly make inertia proc regardless of if I have maxed out ammo on primary/special/heavy. And viola, the super does enough damage in pve to warrant use and death from above makes the melee ability far more consistent in PvP. Inertia override is also buffed to allow for constant action both in PvP and PvE
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