An appeal to all fair minded guardians.
Edit : I can't thank you all enough for your support on this one, but thanks anyway.
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5 OdpowiedziYou guys did get anal fisted really hard
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2 OdpowiedziI don't even see the point in nerfing supers. They are literally supposed to be totally op, with the only way to fight back being power weapons or your own super. Unless a super is unable to be countered by multiple other supers from different classes, it's fine. If need be, nerf how often the super comes. Or nerf how long it lasts. But damage, armor, and mobility are fine unless they can negate almost every other super. So; I agree with OP. I don't even play warlock, nor do I know exactly what got nerfed but honestly, it probably isn't even that big a deal. At the end of the day, we're all just bags of flesh and bone manipulating a string of ones and zeroes to make our brains release a chemical that makes us feel good.
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107 OdpowiedziYou want the truth? Yes of course i know we love the rocket launher but the truth when it comes to PVP balance? Well many of us do not like the truth but here is comes... A hunter sub class has led the way in average KDA every week since D2 launched except for a six week window where Voidwalkers took the top spot. My source is the guardian.gg class stats. I just took the Sunday stats for each week because I didn't want to spend the time to average out every day of the week. A breakdown of the week by week dominance of crucible by Hunters is shown below. WEEK - Subclass leader in Average KDA in crucible on console starting on September 18 2017 1 - Arcstrider had a 1.52 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.46 2 - Gunsligner had a 1.53 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.49 3 - Nightstalker had a 1.51 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.50 4 - Nightstalker had a 1.53 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.45 5 - Nightstalker had a 1.50 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.47 6 - Nightstalker had a 1.60 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.58 7 - Nightstalker had a 1.53 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.52 8 - Nightstalker had a 1.5898 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.5804 9 - Nightstalker had a 1.60 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.55 10 - Nightstalker had a 1.51 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.39 11 - Nightstalker had a 1.50 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.38 12 - Could not get stats?? 13 - Could not get stats?? 14 - Nightstalker had a 1.61 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.48 14 - Nightstalker had a 1.67 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.54 15 - Nightstalker had a 1.58 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.48 16 - Nightstalker had a 1.64 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.49 17 - Nightstalker had a 1.68 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.58 18 - Nightstalker had a 1.67 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.50 19 - Nightstalker had a 1.72 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.54 20 - Nightstalker had a 1.61 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.46 21 - Nightstalker had a 1.69 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.51 22 - Nightstalker had a 1.65 average with next highest being Arcstrider at 1.63 23 - Nightstalker had a 1.65 average with next highest being Arcstrider at 1.50 24 - Nightstalker had a 1.58 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.46 25 - Arcstrider had a 1.61 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.43 26 - Arcstrider had a 1.58 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.41 27 - Arcstrider had a 1.65 average with next highest being Stormcaller at 1.45 28 - Arcstrider had a 1.60 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.41 29 - Arcstrider had a 1.65 average with next highest being Stormcaller at 1.43 30 - Arcstrider had a 1.62 average with next highest being Stormcaller at 1.42 31 - Arcstrider had a 1.57 average with next highest being Nightstalker at 1.43 32 - Arcstrider had a 1.61 average with next highest being Stormcaller at 1.41 33 - Arcstrider had a 1.61 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.38 34 - Arcstrider had a 1.59 average with next highest being Nightstalker at 1.42 35 - Arcstrider had a 1.55 average with next highest being Nightstalker at 1.42 36 - Arcstrider had a 1.65 average with next highest being Stormcaller at 1.42 37 - Arcstrider had a 1.54 average with next highest being Nightstalker at 1.41 38 - Arcstrider had a 1.59 average with next highest being Nightstalker at 1.40 39 - Arcstrider had a 1.62 average with next highest being Stormcaller at 1.41 40 - Arcstrider had a 1.67 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.56 41 - Arcstrider had a 1.67 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.56 42 - Arcstrider had a 1.56 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.55 43 - Arcstrider had a 1.63 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.54 44 - Arcstrider had a 1.65 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.56 45 - Arcstrider had a 1.62 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.57 46 - Arcstrider had a 1.62 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.58 47 - NOT AVAILABLE 09/03/2018 - 09/09/2018 48 - NOT AVAILABLE 09/10/2018 - 09/16/2018 49 - NOT AVAILABLE 09/17/2018 - 09/23/2018 50 - NOT AVAILABLE 09/24/2018 - 09/30/2018 51 - NOT AVAILABLE 10/01/2018 - 10/07/2018 52 - NOT AVAILABLE 10/08/2018 - 10/14/2018 OMG!!! A Hunter is no longer the best for the first time EVER!?! Reeeeeeee!!!! NERF those Warlocks!!!! 53 - Voidwalker had a 1.59 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.43 54 - Voidwalker had a 1.56 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.43 55 - Voidwalker had a 1.51 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.44 OMG!!! A TITAN has reached the number two spot for the first time EVER?!?!??? Nerf theses OP Titans NOW Bungo!!! 56 - Voidwalker had a 1.49 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.43 57 - Voidwalker had a 1.47 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.41 58 - Voidwalker had a 1.51 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.47 59 - Nightstalker had a 1.54 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.45 OK that is better. Thanks Bungie for making this game fair again! That was an intolerable 6 whole weeks were Hunters were not the best. 60 - Nightstalker had a 1.51 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.50 61 - Nightstalker had a 1.50 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.48 62 - Nightstalker had a 1.51 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.45 63 - Nightstalker had a 1.53 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.42 64 - Nightstalker had a 1.53 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.45 65 - Nightstalker had a 1.52 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.44 66 - Nightstalker had a 1.49 average with next highest being Voidwalker at 1.39 67 - Nightstalker had a 1.51 average with next highest being Sentinel at 1.42 68 - Nightstalker had a 1.36 average with next highest being Gunsligner at 1.33 This is today. Back to normal. All Hunter all the time :-)
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It's just an out of touch company listening to strwsmerz and whinerz that watch said strwsmerz. Plus their out of touch
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Yeah I agree the new super became my main at the launch of forsaken mainly for pve but also works wonders in pvp. my main frustration is the movement speed when charging is that of a turtle
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Ok I knew this nerf was bad but to just check again I played it in PVP, QP and Rumble, and PVE some more. NW is just about useless, more so in rumble. Its called a "roaming" super but its very short lived. Even blinking to try to extend the distance you can cover with NW doesn't help much. You may have hated NW but it was nerfed way too hard. The numbers of people using have gone way down. I have seen more Wells in PVP than NW since the nerf which is crazy. You can't deny that Hunters, Titans and then Warlocks are the classes played (in order )in PVP. There is a reason for that and its not because NW needed to be nerfed that bad. Its because Hunters and Titans were more effective in PVP to start with and just got more powerful due to the death of NW. So much for balance.
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You need to move on to slova bb and dire skull...way better atm
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2 OdpowiedziIt's still good lol
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3 OdpowiedziWhen warlocks demand their nerfs reverted, the community cheers. When hunters demand their nerfs reverted, the community loses their minds.
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1 OdpowiedźWarlock Main that plays 99% PvE here, was using it in strikes and it was just awful. You get an upvote from me.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika CAMMAX008: 2/4/2019 6:00:28 PMIt still seems decent from what I've seen [spoiler]not much[/spoiler] but i heard it got nerfed pretty badly so: Bump
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It's not about what's too strong or too weak, it all about a "rotating meta" that they're after, with a side of "let's help the streamers".
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5 OdpowiedziF off kid, its your own guy’s fault for spamming that shit in the crucible. maybe if you meta-F-words bothered to use any of the other 8 subclass trees this wouldn’t have happened. Take the L with some dignity, you warlocks are PATHETIC!
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It has to be improved, it's the super nerfead of all of them. To lower the damage and the duration to charge it to the maximum? they have passed, and then they kill you quickly,and you can't kill one with the super. I hope Bungie fix it pls
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11 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Wrath_and_Fury: 2/4/2019 12:42:27 PMThis Hunter agrees that Nova Warp was hit hard. I thought it was fine before. My only gripe was it's ability to kill through walls. However.... ....It's a super. It's supposed to be powerful hence the reason I always run when I hear a roaming one start up.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Tk: 2/4/2019 5:02:51 PMJust went and tried nw out in the volunder forge. And damn, all i can say is that this wasnt just a nerf, the super was straight up murdered in pve. I used to use it in gambit all the time to clear an area of ads or when the boss spawns, quickly take out all the ads and envoys (easy since they have void shields). Guess i cant do that now. Would have helped if nova bomb got a radius buff so a could do something close to it at least. Its also pretty bad in pvp also. Can get a good 3-4 explosions in. Why did bungie pretty much buff spectral and striker close to nova warp level (movement, killing potential, efficiency, etc) and then nerf the hell out of nova warp??? I mean sure lower it down a bit to spectral and strikers killing potential. But why bring them up to a level and bring nw down. Dawnblade got a 3 sec buff and nova bomb still doesn't even come close to blade barrages shutdown potential. Bring nova warp to spectral and striker level. Buff nova bomb and thunder crash to blade barrage shut down level. Buff arc strider, speed up tether, buff ward of dawn, buff stormcaller. Also, chaos reach should highlight enemies in red (just like eye of another world exotic does) so its easier to see shit.
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Oh.. Hell No!
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I want to like it but I'm scared they will make it overpowered again if I do.
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I voted today 👍
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They should honestly just completely remove supers from PvP! All crucible players do is cry for nerfs/buffs, no supers, no problem.
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3 OdpowiedziI’m all for nova warp getting reverted but they should also revert blade burrage damage and keep the self damage.
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Only issue I had with nova warp was the AOE. Around a corner? POOF U DED