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Edytowany przez użytkownika PapaSohan:
1/17/2019 1:58:22 PM
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Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten have ruined crucible
Title. These guns are OP. Anyone who doesn't have them has no chance to compete. Plus, 80% of the people I run into using these weapons are in a 4 or 5 stack, so they're even more likely to win.
Solution, LH and NF are acquired as pinnacle weapons in the competitive playlist. Keep them restricted to the competitive playlist so us quickplay casuals aren't fodder for all the tryhard's multikill youtube videos.
Edit: omg my first top 10 trending post in 5 years on b.net. I'm glad there are people who still have strong opinions on this game. It was nice to wake up to all these notifications. Have a good day.
Edit 2: I like how most naysayers simply say, "Get yourself in a better position then them," or, "Play to your loadouts strengths." Like, do you not think that that's exactly what they are doing? I can't force them to play bad. Yes I can bait them into a disadvantaged team fight, which I do, but it still requires them making a mistake. Basically these posters solution is for me to play mistake free while my opponent with the superior loadout makes lots of mistakes. ffs
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Edytowany przez użytkownika New_zZzomBie: 1/18/2019 7:58:00 AMTelesto and Wavesplitter combat on console Oh wait I agree so strongly. It was nice running a few different things in energy slot . That all competes w teams full of Luna
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7 OdpowiedziHavent seen them as much now as I used to. Main problem is Jötun
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3 OdpowiedziDestiny 2's crucible is mediocre at best anyways and the people who main the meta are sheep. Just let it be as is because theirs no point in asking this developer to balance this game anymore.
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2 OdpowiedziThat’s why I stick with West Of Sunfall. It’s not too powerful but it pairs with The Lion quite well.
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5 OdpowiedziHere’s my opinion for whatever it’s worth. Luna’s should be quick play obtainable NF should be comp obtainable There is absolutely no reason lesser skilled PVP players should be punished by this gun that is clearly the best gun in the game. The perk should either be obtainable on another gun or like I said make the Luna’s obtainable via QP. I also think it’s a huge crutch weapon. It’s literally a two tap. There is almost 0 skill required to get kills with it because of its stability. Again just my opinion. I’ve tried to get it but soloing in comp yields no wins and lots of losses to people with the gun. Speaking on that comp should have a system like overwatch or siege with ranking. No reason not to, unless you want to stat pad which is what happens 99% of comp games.
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5 Odpowiedzii don't have luna's cause i made a quest to get it solo... (lol Yeah i know...) i don't think making luna or NF not avaible in qp a good idea cause (... anyway) but 3% of the player base have NF , you (and i actually) would most likely lose the gun fight anyway even without it... Many Luna's owner can't effectevelyuse it (no offense to anyone but we all know many ppl payed to get those... and cause it's not that HARD to get fabled in a team even a team of 2...) and if you can't land 2 headshots it's just a regular 180 (a scary one i agree) most of the time i lose cause i recognize the luna sound so i overeact and dodge and crounch and strafe and if that person doesn't aim for the head or can't hit 2 headshot in the row i help that person to shot me down... if you like handcannons (180's) malfeasance and some decent strafe can mess them up a bit (and make them miss) trust with explosive payload or any gun with highcaliber rounds anyways... but yep i agree ppl tend to go way too hard in quickplay nowadays... didn't mean to be mean or anything just trying to help
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4 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Muka Gatals: 1/17/2019 9:38:23 PMMost PVP players in this forum are The High Skilled ones. Of course the will defend the LH/NF. Those casuals..the fodder..the majority regular destiny players are not here. They just hate D2 PVP even more. Because the get forced to play PVP by Clan Bounties, Quest line...etc. Me..Don't even bother to play D2 PVP/IB anymore. In D1..I never missed any IB. Play PVP regularly even my K/D was lower than my D2 K/D and below 1.0. I was happier playing D1 PVP than D2 PVP. Y1,Y2 D1 PVP were the best PVP. D2..all "Meh". And Bungie makes bad mistakes by giving the Higher skilled PVP player better guns and keep nerfing stuff because of PVP balance stupidity.
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Went against a team of 6 last night in IB. All had DRB and LH or NF. The mercy came extremely fast.
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I have to disagree with all due respect. Saying that Luna’s and NF ruined PvP is like saying that the stench ruined a good pile of shit. D2 PvP has been absolute crap long before those weapons started to turn up more frequently.
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26 OdpowiedziEvery single one of us that has these weapons had to earn them in comp without having the weapons ourselves to begin with. And very, very few of us were among the very first to get them (meaning we had to face teams carrying these often in the ranks approaching fabled / legend. By your logic, I think that all raid weapons should only be useable in raids. Got a strike exclusive? That isn’t fair - you should only be able to use it in the strike you got it in. You surely shouldn’t be able to use those guns to kill [i]me[/i] in PvP! Actually, that felt better - much better than putting forth all the effort in improving my game.
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1 OdpowiedźThe guns are good yes, but you can still counter them with a large variety of weapons. The people stacked up are likely just better then you. If you had the guns restricted or nerfed, you will then complain about the next gun the better player is now beating you with. Make friends team up and kick ass, these complaints are what takes the fun out of the game. I am not an good player and I still have tons of fun playing with my friends in any playlists!
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1 Odpowiedź[quote]Basically these posters solution is for me to play mistake free while my opponent with the superior loadout makes lots of mistakes. ffs[/quote] That's because they LOVE this pub stomping playground Bungie has made for them and don't want to admit that someone else's bad experience might be unavoidable [b][i]despite [/i][/b]their best efforts... It's the same every time. You suggest SBMM, they say 'no, it's fine', you check their stats and they're top 5% with k/d - and then argue with you about how 'average' they really are. Because [b][i]their [/i][/b]experience is awesome, so [b][i]you [/i][/b]must just not be trying hard enough. They don't believe skill ceilings are a thing, or at least that's how they argue to keep this busted system that ruins the majority's experience...
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I actually love those guns. It's hilarious to see who actually earned them versus who paid a recovery service for them. Lots of guys are still trash with them.
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Agreed. Easiest solution is to remove point loss in competitive. It would solve everything.
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yea that and shotguns. these maps are way too damn small for anyone to get a kill fast enough before someone just -blam!-ing jumps above you or kills you from a distance. An incredibly weird distance.
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False! Ive played a ton of ppl that suck with LH and NF Weapons like Vigilance wing, Innaugral address, Blast Furnace, Graviton L, Duke, Telesto, Wavesplitter, Bygones, even Mida ....etc.. can outgun LH or NF.. You just need a tiny bit of skill and luck with the crappy matchmaking and blueberries that dont suck
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Really just need longer range maps. Would make people use other weapons depending on the map.
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3 OdpowiedziNah you’re forgetting titan skating and one eyed masks
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actually the issue is that Luna's/NF enhance the gap betwen the opponents if 2 equally skilled players face each others the one with luna in a "pure gunfight" (without grenades baits and others actual stuffs) will most likely beat the one without it. so when a guy with a luna face a less skilled player he will stomp him... that's where the frustration come from i guess. maybe ppl forget they have tools i mean grenades, melee, covers, slides, jumps, strafe, crounch... and that NF/Luna's have a direct counter... it's written on it... they have to aim for the head! THEY HAVE TO! or the gun sucks! you have 3 shots to make them miss ...
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Everyone has the most op weapon by now called ace of spades lol
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Luna’s howl and not forgotten aren’t the problem
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2 OdpowiedziI'll say it here to.... Get ready for TRIALS with 3 people using Not forgotten doing paid carries. There will be a ton of these teams making a shit ton of money off Destiny. It's dissapointing. That's why we're running into these teams at the top. They're trying to prevent others from getting it to keep their cash flow.
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21 OdpowiedziIf you are willing to spend all that time in comp, you deserve a gun that will beat quickplay folks. Besides let’s not pretend that Luna players will destroy you with any other gun in the first place.
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23 OdpowiedziWrong. Bygones will eat those guns alive. Im at 2200 and all i use is bygone. Git gud.
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