Hey all,
Since the release of Forsaken, we’ve been fielding feedback concerning the Oathkeeper Exotic Gauntlets for Hunters. Primarily, players do not feel that the Adamantine Brace perk offers a significant change to bow charge times.
As such, we are removing “Bows charge faster” from the description of the perk in an upcoming update. This armor piece will continue to give a minor decrease to charge times, but will no longer be called out as an aspect of the exotic perk.
Moving forward, the focus of this exotic will be that players may hold bow charges indefinitely, with the benefit of Perfect Draw being applied to arrows fired, even after longer hold times.
We will continue to monitor this feedback as it comes in, so please continue to sound off with thoughts concerning the Oathkeeper Exotic!
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Would be great if your team could also look into "Shards of Galanor", atm they are the most inconsistent Exotic in D2. Made a thread about it here: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/249574330?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1 Thanks
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So you’re just changing the description instead of actually fixing the problem? Shaxx forbid that you actually make the draw time reduction noticeable and have a meaningful impact.
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38 OdpowiedziAll of you knocking the unlimited hold time aren't thinking this through. Imagine, a Wish-ender combo'ed with these. Unlimited wallhacks. Literally unlimited. If you can't see how potent that combo is going to be, there's no helping you.
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So the only bow that I can see the unlimited draw time on Oathkeeper being a good thing for is the Wishender. The only problem is the Wishender has the longest draw time of any bow, so what is the point of the unlimited draw time, and the wall hack if you cant pull the bow in crucible fast enough to get the shot off. If your going to make an exotic, make it feel exotic, not like eh it’s ok. Just fix the exotic, stop being lazy.
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I was looking forward this exotic like insane because i love bows for pve and pvp, just one tip for thoses who dont use bows.. drawn time its meaningless if you dont have a good reload speed on them, I have a Subble calamity with Snapshot sights + archer's tempo, combine this two with a ophidian aspects and you will go crazy with bows for both pvp and pve, ( sadly only works on warlocks ) As a bow user i will recomend to remove the draw time on this exotic ( as you wanted to do ) and instead add reload speed that apply for bows only. Regards.
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3 OdpowiedziHere. Since you lack even a single volt of cognitive power, let me explain how this works. Bows with the maximum fastest draw time, draw almost instantly, like you pull the trigger and you're good to release, remember you still have to reload between shots so you cannot spam fire and you still have to aim, meaning if you're doing this out in the open, you'll still get shot down. Fastest drawtime on medium drawtime bows, now draw as fast as quick draw bows. See previous for the fact this will not meaningfully break the bygones meta. Fastest drawtime on slow draw time bows now draw as fast as medium drawtime bows. Please see previous about your precious gods damn meta. Fix the perk gods damn it. I don't even have this exotic because of your broken gods damned drop rate and I know your full of shit for this. You know what? Bring back xur. Now. You were idiots for pulling this stunt in the first place, and you're unbelievably slow idiots for having let it go on so long. I had friends come back to this game to play it with me and you've already driven them all away. All of them. Fix this.
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Thanks for the clarification! I don't have the exotic yet, stuck on the warlock, but I look forward to grabbing it to up my A game with bows. Options for play style are what I love about this expansion. Mahalo!
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Edytowany przez użytkownika SaxTheRat: 11/9/2018 4:27:56 AMThat's not even worth it. Oh yay. I have exotic armor that lets me hold my bow indefinitely. Not worth it. I've been using bows and guess what, in both PvE and PvP I have never had a problem with holding my shot too long. So instead of FIXING anything you slide it under the rug and pretend it never happened. Like come on! That ridiculous. Add something powerful and useful to make you wanna run a bow and use this exotic To sum this up "We plan on taking a neat, but underwhelming exotic, and making it absolutely trash. We are wrapping the gauntlet in toilet paper because all it will be good for is wiping your behind"
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6 OdpowiedziThis would make Oathkeeper one of the most useless exotics Destiny has ever seen in my opinion. They will offer absolutely nothing for a player who is able to consistently get the perfect draw which is not very hard to get decent at anyway. There is almost no scenario where I have had to hold a bow charge for longer than the default hold allows. AT LEAST allow for something like significantly faster strafe speed when a bow is drawn. I still however thing the draw time decrease would be incredible. I doubt that even with it, bows would be able to compete with something like Lunas in crucible, but it would sure make them feel a lot better. This isn't a good look Bungie. It was even on the "Known Issues" list. Please don't just shove this beautiful looking exotic under the rug.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika THA_3rd_GUY: 11/9/2018 5:20:41 AMJust how dense do you people think we are? Stop changing the wording of something and thinking it resolves the issue. Because it doesn't change anything.
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1 OdpowiedźTo more effectively describe what things are, change the titles of them. As opposed to changing the things to more accurately reflect the intent for which they were created. I'm all for it. Quest > Grindy Time-sink Powerful Drops > Shards Infusion Cores > Enhancement Cores > Progression Stagnation Cores Destiny > Dopamine / Endorphine Response Virtual Reward Simulator Eververse > Cash Grab
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9 OdpowiedziIt's astounding how many stupid people are on these forums. Can't even read. Bungie: "we are not removing the perk. Just the words mentioning it" Community: "HEY DON'T REMOVE IT WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH".
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4 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika SmashvilleViking: 11/9/2018 5:23:06 AMSo, instead of fixing the perk, you remove it? When are you going to fix Skullfort? Infinite Shoulder Charge (ohk) shouldn't be a thing either. What about Nova Warp? Those are the 2 biggest complained about things on the forums. Even warlocks complain about infinite Shoulder Charge, and titans complain about Nova Warp. Even Blade Barrage has been complained about numerous times. I hate nerfs, but man, if you're going to keep nerfing things, why not nerf the things that are the most complained about? Even reddit users have been complaining about those 3 things. Instead, you change the wording on 1 exotic just so you don't have to fix it. You deserve backlash for this. I've stood up for you from day 1 Bungie, and even I can't defend this.
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How about a perk like archers tempo on steroids, so you have to get a precision shot first then a almost outlaw type reload and a even quicker draw time
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Why not add this to an improved draw time And whilst you're buffing bow perks - fix the Trinity Ghoul (massively disappointing that it doesn't fire three arrows with wider spread/tracking - Slow draw time, 3 arrows make it inconsistent to proc the arc effect, and when you get it the AoE/ damage output isn't worth it, 9/10 times only damages the ads, not killing them, plus the perk is underwhelming ALL other bows are better!
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Combo164: 11/9/2018 3:57:24 AMJust to repeat, why not allow bow kills to give grenade or melee or dodge or all three energy? Or alter spike grenades or void nades. Something more beneficial aside from holding a bow forever.
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I hope people remember this fix when they try to sell you their next game
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Do you ever feel bad for covering up your failures? Take masterwork cores out of infusion - sure we will change the name so now you do not need masterwork cores for infusion. SAD!
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1 OdpowiedźBow kills charge super energy or just abilities faster similar to how nezarec sin charges abilities faster from void damage. Something else aside from i can forever hold my bow with a tiny bit of bonus damage from the perfect draw.
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Why is there no plain white ghost shell?
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This is bad Bungie... Pure bad decision.... Its an exotic not worth to use anymore. Is the code so difficult to modify? If its difficult than make a new perk. This is my ideas: Make us dont have to hold the trigger to reach the max draw. So press trigger once it will make the bow automatically draw by itself, then we only need to press trigger once more to release the arrow. It seems not much, but the workload given to our hand holding the trigger makes straffing and targeting more difficult. Other additional perk: make the radar still active when drawing the bow, faster strafing and more accurate mid air. its 3 more perks but I think its not OP. Its a perk only usable for 1 weapon type. Its a strict requirement.
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Lol, OK, it doesn't work but don't fix it, remove it ... it's all irrelevant to me as I don't know what a Forsaken exotic looks like...
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We have also changed " Less chance of receiving a duplicate exotic" to " less chance of receiving an exotic" We will continue to monitor and squash happiness as it arises.
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Bungie. Always good for a laugh...
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Well, there goes any viability that bows could have.
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Oh boy Mechaneers Tricksleeves 2.0 What a load of crap. It doesnt even reduce charge time on the slowest bow in the game. Lazy fix. Lazy exotic. How can you possibly justify crap like this after how far weve come from the shit exotics of D2 Vanilla? How?