Its really that simple. One of the main reasons shotguns are really big in the meta right now is mainly because of two things: close quarters maps, and how ineffective snipers are.
Granted, some higher skilled players can make good use of snipers regardless of how heavy the flinch is right now, but the flinch and other negative factors of the sniper are great enough for newer players to drop a sniper almost instantly and go back to using something else.
As for the maps, since Destiny 2 was built on a 4V4 player bases, the majority of the maps that are in the quick play or competitive playlists are a close or mid-range type of map, making snipers ether less effective or practically useless in the hands of a newer player.
So since the maps can't necessarily change, so the only practical thing to do Is to change snipers. The change I had in mind is allowing sniper rifles the option to have much shorter zoom scopes, like about as long a zoom that a scout rifle has. This would allow newer players to avoid the problem of tunnel vision. Another large problem concerning snipers.
And I probably know what you're thinking that this would ruin the point of snipers, but in actuality it would greatly benefit both good and newer players alike and make them much stronger in a shotgun filled meta.
So yeah, don't nerf shotguns, buff snipers.
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7 OdpowiedziActually a buff to auto rifles and smgs would cause a shotgun player to rethink how they attack a situation. The mid to short game (where “most” shotguns perform well at) needs to have more weapons viable to use.
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1. Give snipers 4 rounds instead of 2 in PVP. 2. Restore Box Breathing in PVE. 3. Increase aim-assist.
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3 OdpowiedziI hope they never ever ever never ever go back to a sniper meta.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Jy-Seven: 10/23/2018 8:57:25 PM•Wish snipers had 4 shots •Mid impact snipers to be able to shutdown supers with headshot like in D1 •D1 short zoom scopes on snipers that we loved, ambush, shortgaze even longview. •Better perks more variety like replenish, Mulligan, life support, underdog etc. •Give me a legendary sniper with ambush, mulligan snapshot replenish •Won't mind seeing nlb return
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5 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Teesdale: 10/22/2018 5:19:56 AMGive snipers 4 rounds of ammo instead of 2. Problem solved EDIT: MOVE TELESTO TO POWER SLOT
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I'd love to see snipers get maybe 4 bullets instead of 2. They are way harder to use than shotguns so they should have at least 3 or 4 shots if they are in the elemental spot.
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Get yourself a high impact fusion, specifically with backup plan. They take a touch of timing to get used to, and a good bit of map awareness, but you can absolutely destroy shotty runners with them. Honestly, it’s easier than most people think too. A lot of baiting players into charging you goes into it. I had a great run of iron banner yesterday with an old Wizened Rebuke fusion (high impact and backup plan). I just wish they would bring hot swap back on fusions. Had an old Saladins Vigil that was an absolute destroyer in D1.
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Snipers don't counter shotguns that won't help. Snipers are actually awesome weapons but you need a shotgun melter primary with it.
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3 OdpowiedziAnother option could be to add two more pinnacle weapon quests in a similar fashion as Redrix and Luna. One could be for a sniper rifle in competitive, and the other could be a fusion rifle in quickplay. That way, more people would use the respective weapon types trying to get the quests done and it might help them learn how to use those weapon types more effectively than a shotgun.
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Go back to when snipers could kill a super from 5 feet, while doing a 180. No thanks Leave the guns as they are and give snipers a little more ammo. Or Give snipers ammo on kill instead of having to go get it. - thats where the current balance issue lies.
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Please don’t. Snipers are very good. They kill from any range at one shot. It makes no sense to be able to quick scope reliably or to maintain perfect aim while being shot.
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5 OdpowiedziMove shotguns back to the power slot
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Be careful - the 1000 yard stare -blam!- was nearly as bad as a shotgun meta. True balance vs this bungie cycle. Fast movement and broken sight lines makes shotguns a wicked option
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Be careful what you wish for. D1 sniper meta made pvp unplayable for anyone who didn’t have the chops for no scope/quick scope head shots. These maps don’t really have he map lanes/sight lines either.
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5 OdpowiedziSnipers are great right now. I say let's bring back submachine guns. You don't see those anymore...
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You forgot to mention a buff to noobtubes too because if a shotgun/sniper/fusion can one hit kill at any range then so should my noobtube
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I’m loving snipers tho. I won’t resort to being a shotgun ape unless I’m playing comp
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1 OdpowiedźNah, if you want to stop Shotgun rushing buff the weapon’s that can counter it. Aka: SMG, Sidearm, and Fusion Rifles. SMG’s and Sidearms could use some consistency boosts at mid range. Fusion Rifles (aside from Main Ingredient and Telesto) could use spread accuracy boosts.
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2 OdpowiedziI think if they reduce the flinch and increase target aquisition a tad, snipers would be in a good spot.
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I use snipers pretty much every game. I love using snipers. The Bite of the Fox is a god roll from the vendor this week. Best of all: its free.
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1 OdpowiedźSnipers are pretty amazing if you can’t snipe well you just aren’t good imo. Every map is a sniper map. Shotguns are easy af to counter.
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Shotguns really are fine as well as snipers. Honestly it sounds like a joke but just “git gud”. Buff side arms if anything.
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1 OdpowiedźBut snipers are already fantastic, its fusions that need more consistency and maps not tailor made for spammybois
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1 OdpowiedźDon't buff snipers, buff hunters
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5 OdpowiedziSnipers are broken as -blam!- right now and you suggest a buff? Pulling the trigger right when you get shot pretty much guarantees a kill. There are some YT videos on this topic. It's an actual problem. If anything snipers need an aim assist nerf or extra flinch when they're getting shot.
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1 OdpowiedźNothing wrong with snipes atm. It's a very situational weapon which is good.