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8/29/2018 8:05:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure SBMM has been stealth added. Every game feels like an absolute sweat fest again.
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I can live with that. I think it isn't fair for worse players to get matched all the time with elitist (like before the Update). On a long view it is annoying to get allways dominated. Also, you have only a sweat fest, if you focus too hard on winning the match. Just play the game and you might hae more fun than sweat.
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I still think SBMM has no place in a casual place. I'm not going in to try to win every game and I'm not doing poorly, it's just a very sweaty atmosphere no matter what. Much preferred when SBMM wasn't in place because the matchmaking was completely unbiased and random. You could have games where everyone was sweaty, games where you stomped and games in the middle. 2 of the guys I normally play with are below average and were absolutely loving it when there was no SBMM. Came across stacked teams of 6 once every 15 or so games.
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I can understand that you want a relaxed athmosphere but think about the crucible like Football in school. You want to play it but it isn't easy because your opponent try their best.
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Nah, I hate football. Much prefer Rugby and Tennis. Doesn't matter anyway, they said they are removing it again.
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Get good. Then you won’t sweat as much :).
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Never said I was doing poorly, champ. Gotten used to outplaying sweaties now.
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But you’re still sweating you said. Get better than the others and you won’t sweat :)
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OMFG. Do you not understand how SBMM works? I guess not. It's always sweaty. That's why it sucks. As soon as you "git gud," it just matches you against better opponents. It never ends.
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Then get bad :)
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I said every game feels like a sweat fest. I didn't say I was sweating. Learn to read and then try trolling elsewhere, kiddo.
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So it [b]feels[/b] like sweat... but there’s [b]no[/b] sweat... 🧐
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It's back for sure. -blam!-ing Bungie, so good at shooting themselves in the foot. Removing SBMM resulted in better reviews than ever of Crucible, and what do they do? Why, put it back in, of course.
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Hate to break this to you, but the good reviews were mainly from upper mid tier guys who seemingly convinced themselves they’d actually become god tier overnight, everyone below that seems to have hated it. Matchmaking has been the biggest single problem with crucible since they “broke” it when 6v6 came in, sandbox changes won’t rescue it if they can’t find a way of keeping most games balanced and give players a route to seeing steady progression against opponents they can handle rather than getting blown out / carried in a blowout at least three quarters of the time.
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Hate to break this to you, but the good reviews were mainly from upper mid tier guys who seemingly convinced themselves they’d actually become god tier overnight, everyone below that seems to have hated it. Matchmaking has been the biggest single problem with crucible since they “broke” it when 6v6 came in, sandbox changes won’t rescue it if they can’t find a way of keeping most games balanced and give players a route to seeing steady progression against opponents they can handle rather than getting blown out / carried in a blowout at least three quarters of the time.
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Do you have evidence of this? Or is it just what you think is true? Because I'm an average player, nothing more, and I like it way more. Most of my friends are average players, some below average, in fact, and they all loved it.
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My evidence is mainly from these boards, seeing guys observing that crucible is no longer fun because they’re getting farmed by high level stacks all the time, then a bunch of upper-mid tier guys getting carries in those stacks jumping in with “lol git good” and “actually, it is morally good that I get to buff my stats by making your crucible experience a headwreck”. It’s happened over and over in the past month or so, to the point that I’m happy to call it a pattern. I don’t get what’s in it for average players playing against guys way over or below their skill set that would make them love it tbh.
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For me, the Crucible experience improved after SBMM was removed. I saw more varied loadouts, varied builds, and fewer stacked teams. Overall it was just more fun. Sure, every now and again I'd come up against some god-tier players, but whatever. Quickplay isn't supposed to be sweaty; that's what comp is for. The problem was, without radar, and with different gametypes, comp had very little resemblance to quickplay. Now, with radar back and control and clash in comp, hopefully the sweaties will stay there, where they belong.
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[quote]Quickplay isn't supposed to be sweaty;[/quote] Except for me that’s exactly what it’s become since they “accidentally” removed SBMM. Typical game for me: around three guys on 30+ kills, 2.0+ KD, another couple on around 20 and break even, everyone else barely breaking double figures with a negative KD, 50+ spread in the match, regularly approaching 100. When six stacks of 2k+ ELO guys are involved it gets even worse. I’ve heard from others and seen game histories to show that this is far from unusual, sweating like hell just to try breaking even. Like I say, I’m my experience it’s more or less exclusively been upper mid tier tryhards I’ve seen arguing hard against SBMM. We’ve all seen the “1.5+ for quickplay farm, checking stats” LFG threads, I really think it’s very optimistic to hope that these guys will happily migrate back to comp tbh. Last IB had SBMM - which puts the “bug” line re QP in perspective - and for me the matchmaking was pretty much fine, games tended to be balanced and close most of the time. Only real problems were stacks dropping out once the team went behind, which might be down to the solstice quest. Granted, with matchmaking fixed the other problems with that iteration of crucible, especially 6v6 on these maps, but that’s another story.
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People that like things say it once if at all. The pussies you saw on here bitching were low skill players that would never shut up about it. Of course it seemed to you they were in the majority they never shut up about losing. But you want to know something interesting? Sbmm is back and they are still bitching. So it did nothing for the and only hurt the rest of the playerbase.
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Confirmed that it’s not back. Because of all the tryhards bitching for easy games. Crucible will be a ghost town once the honeymoon with the load out changes is over.
