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Edytowany przez użytkownika Kell of Kellogs: 4/22/2017 1:41:04 PM
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average players should not expect to succeed in trials.

tired of saying it to the whiners who come to the forum every tuesday with the normal "failed to flawless yet again this weekend because my team faced SUPER SWEATY TRYHARDS who want nothing but to WIN. i sure wish bungie would give average players a chance in trials instead of matching us with ULTRA SWEATS every single game!!!!!!" news flash! trials is meant to be a place where rather good players compete against eachother, and the lighthouse is supposed to be for the elite. unfortunately things like paid carries exist and thousands of average players see the lighthouse every weekend. but the average players who play the game for fun with friends should no be upset when they lose in trials. it is clear that it is intended to be the "competitive" game mode, so don't go in expecting to do well unless you have a solid team. [quote][i]but i payed for the game! i should have access to everything on disc because i payed for it![/i][/quote] did everyone who bought halo 3 get the recon armor? no. is everyone who bought the division entitled to every single high end weapon in the game? no. is every single $2 age of triumph treasure box guaranteed to have $2 worth of loot in it? of course not. so this logic is flawed. trials isn't meant for everyone, and if it isn't for you then you dont have to play. there are many other ways to reach 400 light and you don't even have to win anything to get the trials emblem in the record book. so please stop complaining about losing solely because you aren't good enough or keep facing "sweaties" or "tryhards" (also known as "players who are genuinely better than you at the game") edit: okay so i've gotten lots of shit which is fine. we're all here to have conversations. 1. never once in this post did i call myself a good or above average player who earned their lighthouse runs. i have 20+ flawlesses as an average player which should not be possible but it is because of how broken the trials system is, but that is a topic for another day. 2. I DO NOT LIKE TRIALS. I DO NOT PLAY TRIALS ANYMORE. i stopped playing several months ago because i hate how slow paced and boring it is. so don't call me a trials elitist ELO god because i couldn't give less of a shit about stats or playing trials for myself. i am just annoyed with people complaining about losing to people who are better than them.

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  • It's a shame that so many noobs are still desperately trying making it easier forthe pro's...this mode should be polluted with lifeless tryhards only so that it's a pain for every single one of them.

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  • As a casual PvPer, I totally agree. Trials is not designed for us, just because you go positive once in a while during Iron Banner doesn't entitle you to a flawless card.

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  • More casuals need to play Trials to make it easier to score a flawless run.

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    • Edytowany przez użytkownika Duardo: 4/23/2017 4:25:06 AM
      This is average..... only 500 game of ddosing or ipstresser or icmp flood for these guys [spoiler]Ninja Edit: I've taken the liberty of removing the gaming account names of the person(s) who you stated were cheating. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/126502065/0/0][u]Bungie takes reports and game bans VERY seriously[/u][/url], and so they carefully research those reports against their server logs for actual shenanigans (cheating/exploits). If those reports and the investigation bear fruit, the cheaters will be dealt with. But things like making a vid, creating a topic, and/or naming them here on the forums serves no purpose and has no benefit. [b]If you have used [u][url=http://i.imgur.com/zNRO5Qg.png]the in-game report tool[/url][/u], then you've done your part. And thank you for doing so.[/b] For those who want to take the extra step, or were kicked from the game (and are unable to access the reporting tool), Bungie has created a [u][url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Troubleshoot?oid=13967]Cheating Submission Form[/url][/u] that allows players to find the PGCR (Post Game Carnage Report) from their personal history, fill out an official report, describe the cheating, and even link a vid (if they have one). [b]Please feel free and encouraged to use this tool, [u]but pay close attention to the warnings on the form[/u][/b]. * If you are not confident that a player was cheating, do not use this form. * Abuse of this contact form may result in account restrictions. * Fraudulent reports and submissions unrelated to cheating may result in disciplinary actions against your account. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/12960][u]Click here for more information[/u][/url][/spoiler] [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been updated with tags that are more appropriate. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]

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    • Exactly. I got hate mail for running a "stacked" team. The guy called me scum and said I'm what's wrong with the destiny community. I simply sent him the thumbs down fat Princess sticker

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    • What Bungie should have done from the start is let players only get to the light house once per week per character. This would have weeded out all the streamers and the shameless people that make money off Trials by doing carries. In that sense, it's actually many average or below average players getting to the light house because of carries, not decent teams that don't want carried.

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      • Edytowany przez użytkownika Guardian, Archon Of Light: 4/22/2017 6:22:17 PM
        [quote] you don't even have to win anything to get the trials emblem in the record book[/quote] Wrong, you have to go flawless

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        • Actually it's people from regions with low ammount of players these days.... It's so nice when I have to fight people from the middle east for that last win and they basically get a free win because they teleport all over the place and wipe the floor with their beautiful lag powers

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        • Edytowany przez użytkownika Ocelot’s Promise: 4/22/2017 6:54:37 PM
          I can agree with your point here, but here is my issue with trials (as an average player who has gone flawless (a few times, unpaid for)). Some of the guns you can possibly be gifted at the end are far superior than the rest of Destiny's artillery. So, that results in the far more superior players to also have better guns... that seems like some bad logic for a game that should be enjoyable by all who decide to be a guardian. I'm not saying that communism should be spread over Destiny, but there should be more ways for the average player to get their hands on those Blind Perditions, etc. Out of the times I have gone flawless I have only received guns that are pretty useless to my play style.

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        • Above average players shouldn't think anyone cares.

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        • Edytowany przez użytkownika Sideswipe: 4/23/2017 4:21:26 AM
          [quote][quote][i]but i payed for the game! i should have access to everything on disc because i payed for it![/i][/quote] did everyone who bought halo 3 get the recon armor? no. is everyone who bought the division entitled to every single high end weapon in the game? no. is every single $2 age of triumph treasure box guaranteed to have $2 worth of loot in it? of course not. so this logic is flawed.[/quote][/quote] You're logic is flawed. Trials is essentially gated off from the less skilled players, just as raids are essentially gated off from those who don't have friends or don't know of or use LFG sites (thanks to no OMM or in-game LFG). Content should never be gated off from [i]anyone.[/i] Loot is a different story. Completing end game activities and receiving gear for completing difficult challenges within those activities are a shining example of how a game should be designed. Examples: *Completing a game on its most difficult setting within a given timeframe unlocks certain gear. The game can still be completed through normal means on any difficulty - anyone can still play it. The Challenge is there for those who wish to attempt it without disruption to others. *Getting X amount of kills in given Rank or Tier in either a single game, series of games, or a season unlocks certain gear - does not affect others' ability to participate or enjoy the content. [quote]trials isn't meant for everyone, and if it isn't for you then you dont have to play. there are many other ways to reach 400 light and you don't even have to win anything to get the trials emblem in the record book. so please stop complaining about losing solely because you aren't good enough or keep facing "sweaties" or "tryhards" (also known as "players who are genuinely better than you at the game")[/quote] Trials as a means to get to 400 light is red herring only perpetuated by those who defend Trials. Losing to better teams as a reason to complain is a symptom of the bigger issue. [quote]i am just annoyed with people complaining about losing to people who are better than them.[/quote] And most of the community is annoyed with the way Trials is structured. Lesser skilled players being treated solely as cannon fodder. It's the single most disgusting way a dev can treat the majority of their customers.

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          • You and other players like you? leave this crazy talk in destiny. No, You stay in destiny too.

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          • Habilis wants go to light house and watch ships sail by. Has never been. But is ok: Habilis is 1.5 million year old hominin and IQ not sky high...

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          • Wow, I'm glad a lot of guardians quoted you. The fact that you edited your post so drastically, shows how much you can't even stand by your own opinion, so why should I?

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          • Edytowany przez użytkownika Ratti: 4/22/2017 10:59:53 AM
            I have a query? After my team lost yesterday, one of the guys messaged me. He simply said "Nohand" and didn't say anything else. Does anyone know what this means?

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            • This really shouldn't have to be explained anymore.

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            • No one cares anymore

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            • Put a minumun age of 18 sign at the lighthouse and you get rid of 80 % of the so called sweaties. A 40 year old doesn't have the cat like reflexes of a 16 year old and won't outgun them. Sure there are exceptions but it would be more fun to get matched against mature players.in stead of kids. As much as I hate.to admit, skill based matchmaking could actually be fun for trials. Sweaties meet sweaties and old people meet noobs.

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              • Who cares? Great post btw <sarcasm font

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              • Yep, I suck but I enjoy the challenge. And hey, I'm helping people to the lighthouse every week 😁

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                • Edytowany przez użytkownika Spicy Boi: 4/22/2017 5:44:49 PM
                  One of the nodes in the book is to go flawless, just so you know. So you do have to win. Not mad, just letting you know your argument about that might need some work EDIT: I'm an idiot

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                  • Well I mean the title isn't wrong.

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                  • It's the participation trophy whiner mindset, whine and cry for items they can't earn. Sad to say it but the whining eventually works. Before the whiners started complaining about not being able to get the exclusive Trials weapons. Now one could get it via RNG by completing the Crucible Quartermaster bounties. I bet the next thing they will get will be the armor.

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                    • Trials is boring And has given me 7,434,502 cloaks

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                    • [quote]tired of saying it to the whiners who come to the forum every tuesday with the normal "failed to flawless yet again this weekend because my team faced SUPER SWEATY TRYHARDS who want nothing but to WIN. i sure wish bungie would give average players a chance in trials instead of matching us with ULTRA SWEATS every single game!!!!!!" news flash! trials is meant to be a place where rather good players compete against eachother, and the lighthouse is supposed to be for the elite. unfortunately things like paid carries exist and thousands of average players see the lighthouse every weekend. but the average players who play the game for fun with friends should no be upset when they lose in trials. it is clear that it is intended to be the "competitive" game mode, so don't go in expecting to do well unless you have a solid team. [quote][i]but i payed for the game! i should have access to everything on disc because i payed for it![/i][/quote] did everyone who bought halo 3 get the recon armor? no. is everyone who bought the division entitled to every single high end weapon in the game? no. is every single $2 age of triumph treasure box guaranteed to have $2 worth of loot in it? of course not. so this logic is flawed. trials isn't meant for everyone, and if it isn't for you then you dont have to play. there are many other ways to reach 400 light and you don't even have to win anything to get the trials emblem in the record book. so please stop complaining about losing solely because you aren't good enough or keep facing "sweaties" or "tryhards" (also known as "players who are genuinely better than you at the game") edit: okay so i've gotten lots of shit which is fine. we're all here to have conversations. 1. never once in this post did i call myself a good or above average player who earned their lighthouse runs. i have 20+ flawlesses as an average player which should not be possible but it is because of how broken the trials system is, but that is a topic for another day. 2. I DO NOT LIKE TRIALS. I DO NOT PLAY TRIALS ANYMORE. i stopped playing several months ago because i hate how slow paced and boring it is. so don't call me a trials elitist ELO god because i couldn't give less of a shit about stats or playing trials for myself. i am just annoyed with people complaining about losing to people who are better than them.[/quote] If you're too ugly to get laid you pay for a prostitute. Prostitutes are legal in this game FYI. If you get my meaning...

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                    • You do realize trials is filled with streamer carries and paid light houses. There is a huge disadvantage especially now when the player pool has decreased.

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