This post is way beyond salt. I really think op is just an idiot. Flawed logic is flawed.

You realize that stacked teams run into another stacked team just as often as you run into them.. right?

Holy shit bro.....are you mad that people "2+ kd" beat you? So you mean to say is that since your not as good and skilled as these players, THEY shouldn't be able to go flawless or since your not as good as them they shouldn't go flawless....You are completely f'd in the head bud.

Man you'd hate running into me on Xbox

This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen

I pooped today

You realize how flawed your logic is right. If the elite 2+ kd players are removed, then it becomes the 1.5+ players who become the losers according to your logic which progresses until any scrub who picks up the game can go flawless NFL players wouldn't be punished for being good at football, why is this any different

My friend paid 150$ for like 5 carries for the uggy scarab gear ...LOL he stopped playing after that, his kd shows he doesnt deserve it i told him anyone would look at his stats and know he was carried/dead weight xD

This is the only online game I've encountered where people expect to have things handed to them because "they deserve it," citing their purchase of the game and continued payments of PSN/XBL as justification for such entitlement. Completionists [b]EARN[/b] their stuff. I have never went flawless. I don't plan on it because PvP isn't that important to me. I screw around in it but I've never really taken it seriously. 9 sweaty wins in a row for useless cosmetic armor, a couple emblems, weapons easily outshined by others, and mere bragging rights just isn't worth the grind. If the armor and weapons gave a sort of advanced edge in PvP like most other PvP online games, I'd grind with the best of them. That's what earning PvP gear is all about. Rewards deserving of effort. But enough of that. The only way you "deserve" flawless is if you earn it the old fashioned way. Bust some heads and take what's yours.

Hmmm let's see, yes I did pay for the full game. I should deserve the best loot in the game seeing how much I love this game. Yes I did put my all into pvp to get better and improve, I did go to the lighthouse in year 1 when it was better and pvp was more balanced (I rocked hard with Thorn and Hawkmoon when they were king) So yeah I think I deserve another chance at the lighthouse. I hate these elitist jerks who think it's only for themselves for their own ego. Get a life! You think the lighthouse is only for yourselves your sadly mistaken. I hope I trigger so many elitists here!! And gg op I hop you triggered half of these elitist jerks who love nothing more then ego Edit* as you can see I already triggered some folks. People wouldn't believe me that pvp was balanced in Year 1 because to me it was balanced in Year 1. You had many primaries to choose from. I chose Hawkmoon and Thorn because I could. Some people got really triggered and had to comment with a arrogant comment which for that deserves a mute.

If you are losing you don't deserve flawless it doesn't matter to who you are losing... a team of 5 kd or team of 0.1 kd... [spoiler]and I talk as one that last time flawlessed was before month[/spoiler]

Where does one begin with you haddock, still crying 2 days later about the same thing. Let's begin: [quote]If you have a 2+ kd and do Trials in a team with an average 2+kd YOU do not deserve to go to the Lighthouse. That's right, I said it. You are crap matey, you hang out in your OP team and beat multiple teams of average players, hardly ever playing anyone your own level at all.[/quote]So because you're good and beat every completely random team you matched from 0.8 to 3.0 you don't deserve to go to lighthouse...because you're good... [quote]You suck lads.[/quote]Funny, I'd think only a +2.5 would be able to tell a 2.0 they suck...not someone who's negative...but hey. [quote]Every time my friends and I get to 5 wins or 7 wins we earn it by playing close, competitive matches.[/quote](By every time you means the 4 lighthouse runs you have...over 3 years) Everyone plays more competitive matches at 7 wins on, so how are you exclusively deserving while others aren't? (Hint: you're not) [quote]What do you losers do? Stomp a few teams and tell each other you're great through your CB radios?[/quote]If they're stomping teams you struggle with they are great no? [quote]You don't deserve to go to the Lighthouse because you've not done anything difficult, No-one wins the Superbowl by playing non-league teams all the way to the trophy, no one wins Wimbledon by playing amateur tennis players, Bolt doesn't win the 100m by racing against pensioners with walking sticks.[/quote]Ah the difference between the Olympics and a online event...I doubt many people can train to be as fast as Bolt, anyone however can go flawless if they put in the time asnd effort to play better, smarter, faster. [quote]You even call those you beat scrubs, yeah damn right we are scrubs and we play other scrubs in a competitive match and we win 5-4 and it feels great.[/quote]So you're mad they call you scrubs then agree you are ones.... [quote]Maybe it does make you feel better and make up for the treatment you got at school, I don't know I wasn't there but you are kidding yourselves if you think going through 9 easy wins is deserving, it isn't.[/quote]This is sad tbh, all I see is "I deserve to go because I'm bad, you don't because you're not" [quote]You're pathetic.[/quote]Bit backwards haddock, [b]You[/b] are the pathetic one, all I got from this post and the ones you've also said the past 2 days is that you can't go flawless and blame it on good players. [quote]So next time you rinse a team 5-0 and go to the Lighthouse, remember, it wasn't even a challenge for you. It was easy street. Sometimes I think you are too scared of an actual challenge. You are just achieving your average and have not excelled at all. You have reached average. We can all do that. You are, for want of a better word, scrubs.[/quote]There is so much contradiction in this statement it hurts...it wasn't a challenge for 2.0s? Even thought they have the same chance of matching 3.0s as they do 1.0s....and I wouldn't talk about who's average haddock, you're the one whining trials is too hard... [quote]EDIT: Interesting that people think this post is about who deserves to go flawless when actually it is about whether or not people desrve recongniton for doing their average and achieving nothing but what is epxected of them. To the teams full of 2+kds, i'll make it clear, you may get to the lighthouse but there is no achievement there for you, it was easy street and everytime SBMM is mentioned you whine and bitch because you actually don't want genuine competition.[/quote]Here's what this topic is about: All you're interested in is bungie hiding you from anyone better then you, you want to be coddled, you want participation trophies, you want to go flawless without trying, guess what? That's not how it was designed, that's not how it should be played. At the end of the day you're just a salty little kid who can't stand when they match players that are better then him. All you want is protection from better players, that's pretty damn sad.

Just stop playing. If average players didn't participate in trials they would update it real quick

Lol, so let me get this straight. If every one on your team is better than everyone on the enemy team, you don't deserve the win? Even though [b]everyone on your team is more skilled than everyone on the enemy team[/b]. This reasoning makes no sense.

a team full of 2.0s dont go for the lighthouse, they do 3 win resets to boost their stats m8 and the game is played how the owner intends to play. .4s decide they want to spend money cuz they suck, and higher up players decide that elo matters. its their choice kid

Yeah I don't know... personally I think if the NFL was open to anyone and a team of pensioners decided to give it a shot, should they all of a sudden implement new divisions within the NFL so they can play other pensioners cause they start whining it's not an achievement for the "real" teams to beat them? That said, a sbmm Trials playlist where stacked teams can go [i]if they want [/i]for their flawless (and an emblem) might be desirable for some. Everyone good who plays trials for elo and stat bragging rights can carry on as they please, why shouldn't they be allowed to enjoy themselves in a game they paid for? It doesn't happen to me very often but when I get put in a lobby where I can dominate utterly it's super fun, just like the games where you steamroll teams 5-0 is fun too. Maybe I'm biased because I never really had anyone to play trials with and don't care...