Disclaimer- This is not a complaint about a weapon being OP, because let's be honest there is NOTHING OP in this meta.
I see that in the current meta you can basically pick any weak primary you want bc it really doesn't matter. All that matters is that you have a high impact shotgun with max range. This being said how come you brought back fan favorite guns from year 1 like the Thorn and Khostov, bc they are both terrible weapons. Therefore, what we need is a exotic Felwinters Lie and how convenient I have a perk tree already set up so you can't mess it up (aggressive ballistics/ field choke/accurized ballistics, full auto, hammer forged/rifled barrel/reinforced barrel, knee pads and the exotic built in talent SHOT PACKAGE). Ohh yes the return of the CQC sniper, I mean shotgun. Which means this shotgun needs double the range of the current king Matador 64. You can also increase all other shotgun range back to where it was in year 1 since it is clear that primaries suck in this meta. So instead of making us all suffer just make shotguns really good again and when we pick up special ammo were gonna need more of it so we can run around with shotguns all game and no need to camp special boxes for 2 mins playing King of the Special Ammo Crate, waiting for our next free 3-4 kills.
Another idea would be to take all the kings of past metas for example (Suros Regime, TLW, Thorn, Hawkmoon, ALL pulse archetypes, high RoF autos, Mida hay days, remove RNG trigger pulls on hand cannons, and make Primaries Great Again! The best part of this option is that you don't have to spend hours/days/weeks/months/half a year "tweaking and testing your sandbox" besides sandboxes are for children just release a buff to all primaries it's that easy.
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All I want is for Red death to be ok and Gun Slinger to get 3 things 1.)More time to use my super 2.)More Armor/Def BUFF while in my super 3) For my nade that wasent Auto stick to be Sticky again. (Theres like 6 classes that get a one hit auto aim sticky nade) I Think
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Easy thing to do : [b][i][u]Revert every nerf ever done to anything.[/u][/i][/b] Everything will be as powerful as ever (except for Vex, that thing was OP) Crucible might be actually balances
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17 OdpowiedziYou're actually a moron. Shotguns are not a problem anymore.
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2 OdpowiedziBut vex...
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Make primaries like yr one! No exotics won't dominate anymore even now. Nerf both shotguns and snipers slight! Buff the subclasses slight too. Speciialy defender need a slight buff to.
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3 Odpowiedzi"Let's make shotguns OP" well what about snipers and fusions bud?
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I'm Matt rose and I support this message. enough is enough with the shotguns. I'm tired of no one using primarys anymore :/
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4 OdpowiedziJust use a hand cannon. Your shot can't suck. Or op pulse rifles. Primaries are literally fine. Maybe up the range for hand cannons a little. Your shot can't be garbage. Last word is the shit. I snipe 24/7. Fusion rifles are good now. The game is fine, shotgunning has always ruled remember guys, there was shotpackage. Now there isn't. Primaries are fine. Just gotta use em right
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4 OdpowiedziLiterally right now everything kills in a quarter of a second, I swear if I see 1 more post begging Bungie to make his game even more CoD than it already is... I hope Bungie nerfs everything, so that this game would actually take skill and consistency, not just whoever -blam!-ing shoots the first bullet.
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1 OdpowiedźHand Canons need an accuracy buff back to year one. Maintain the damage falloff, maybe even worsen it if you don't shoot within the intended range. But I am not using my Hand Canon on someone mid range with a chance of getting outgunned because 2-3 bullets miss, i'd rather slide towards them and shotgun for the guaranteed 100% kill.
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1 OdpowiedźMake them great and consistent for -blam!- sake
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1 OdpowiedźShotguns feel OP because primary weapons have been nerfed into the ground. It's far, far too easy to bunny-hop bum-rush with a shotgun.
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Someone already said it, its the maps. All year 1 maps are better then the new ones. All the new maps encourage camping and shotgun use.........they are so small that by the time you see someone they can close the gap and kill you with their Shotgun.
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I won't be doing y3 raid just like y2 raid. The gear and lack of elemental primaries just aren't worth it. I'll just wait it out for another one of those year 2 "April update" in year 3 to reach max light lvl all over again :D The only good thing that y3 raid has going for it is the exotic pulse but I'm positive it's just going to be nerfed like everything else. So by then it won't be worth the quest line.
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2 OdpowiedziIf any of you have seen mtash's video about this then you may understand but I wish that the metas from y1 were still a thing..
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Finally, someone who understands that primaries suck now. If you look back at yr 1 footage, weapons that were not as good then, we're later considered op in yr 2 and nerfed. I.e. legendary handcannons and high rof pulses
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4 OdpowiedziPersonally I'd still like to see a game mode with no heavy and no special. Start the game with full super, grenade, and melee, but you only get one of each so you have to be sure you use it at the most effective time. That is to say, force people to play the game tactically, where the closest thing to a sniper is a scout rifle, and the closest thing to a shotgun is the hand cannon...... NLB and UR spawn with an empty mag and can't be loaded because they're both special weapons that just happen to have a primary slot. Would significantly change how people play pvp.
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Yes. Tired of everyone using nothing but shotguns. Every single match, even in trials there's shotgunners using nothing but shotguns. They can't even hold primaries for 2 seconds.
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Strong primaries might be a problem for people with small hands, ya know?
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Nerf fusionS?
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7 OdpowiedziHonestly the raising of the the primary TTK lowered the skill gap. A good player has a much harder time getting out of 2v1's because primary weapons even when at the perfect TTK can't pull those off anymore. Shotguns and all the movement abilities coupled with the maps make shotguns incredibly low risk high reward. Say what you want about rose colored glasses and everything but I think I would take pre 2.0 back. The range mechanic has made things feel less crisp and where you aimed pre 2.0 you hit. It was pretty simple. Now you have range fall off, cones of accuracy, randomized bullet accuracy, etc. That has just slowed the game down and taken away a lot of what made the game feel so good in year 1. The skill gap felt higher and you were rewarded for more for good primary play.
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1 OdpowiedźHigh RoF pulses dominate everything at the moment
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#makeexoticsexoticagain
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1 OdpowiedźPrimaries are great. Equip a good rolled grasp of malak and tell me it's not great. There's plenty of examples too that kill in 3 to 4 shots.
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Curse of Lies -Reduces movement speed by 60% regardless of evasive movements
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13 OdpowiedziNothing op? Do you even Warlock melee?