Let’s talk about Trials.
Now after looking over the forums there seems to be a lot of salt in regards to ToO, and how it’s handled. Some people are suggesting "Playlist Lock Outs", you run you’re 3 games that week and your done. This of course of absurd, people paid for the game, they should be able to play it with their friends. Streams seem to gain popularity by carrying viewers, and people just like elimination. Other still have suggested once you, run flawless you are relegated to a Flawless only playlist, but this, again does not fix the underlining issue with ToO.
Many of you would be surprised to know the apparent algorithm according to Bungie for ToO is not based off your skill as a player or even your aggregate skill as a team. It’s not SBMM, or even connection. A couple of games in ToO make this apparent, lag, cheating, and very one sided matches seem to run rampant one moment you’ll 5-0 a team that you had no right playing against, and the next you’ll get 5-0ed against a team that had no right playing against you. The algorithm is based off you’re your ToO card Win’s. This is RNG in a playlist that should be about skill, not RNG.
This is ludicrous, for a vast number of reason, including but not limited to; people who have already been flawless playing again, against weaker opponents. Players who wish to boost their Trials Win stats so they play the first 5 games on a card, scrap it get another and play again. And one sided matches. The list really does go on and on and on.
The simple solution, a rank the Trials Play List.
I’m going to give a dumbed down overview of how this should work.
Your ranking is 1-50. This is displayed on your Emblem next to your light and level, if you’re rank 25 for example, the game does everything in its power to find other 25’s. If it cannot find other 25’s then it slowly opens the skill gap in both directions. So 24-26, then if it till has trouble, it keeps moving it till it’s able to find a proper match, connection of course being a high priority. For anyone keeping track this is how bungie handled Halo 3’s ranking.
The only problem, I see with matching people based on a ranking system, is the top 1% of players will play one another, opening up the lighthouse for more of the community. Which when you think about it isn't really a problem.
EDIT: It should be noted that the point of showing Rank in ToO, is less to denote elitism which, yes it will create, and more to hold bungie to account, with a number we can see at a glance how well the system is working, and hold them to account if it doe not work. Will there be exploration? Like there was in Halo 3, yes but under Bungies guidelines that is cheating, and should be handled accordingly.
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Keep trials as it is
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Would not mind as long as I get to let everyone know I'm better than them [spoiler]jk im horrible, great idea tho[/spoiler]
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5 OdpowiedziIt is based on how many wins as you said , so if you have a 8-0 card you have al the right in the game to play against another 8-0 team
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I can get behind this. I will say though the skill ranking should be on something more like 1-1000 and it should pair you like the average if your team's rank. This does present issues for carrying a low level to get paired against people lower than your average so I'm open to suggestions on that. Your skill rank should go up if you win and down if you lose, the amount of which you fain is determined by your K/D in that particular game. So if you lost but got 15 kills and only 5 deaths, you'd only lose a little bit of points compared to if you lost with 0 kills and 10 deaths.
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4 OdpowiedziI dont get Im not the best player in destiny and still just yesterday i did 2 flawless and got the vigilant disciple So if i can and you cant its not because murdaro is carrying someone its just because you need to train! [spoiler]sorry on bad english[/spoiler]
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1 OdpowiedźSoooo many streamers rely on Trials to get viewers and or subs. I'm not saying they are bad, most are not. But "carries with subs" wouldn't be in the title for 90% of the Destiny streamers. We would get to see more MLG plays which would be sweet.
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4 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika ICFZI: 10/4/2016 8:09:42 AMYour idea is flawed in many ways 1) SBMM or rank based matchmaking as you are proposing is a terrible form of matchmaking, it's makes every game very sweaty and laggy which kills the fun after a couple of games 2)The weakest team in the best ranking would be unable to reach the light house, but the best team in the worst ranking would, and this is BS because if you were to put those two teams against each other the weakest team in the best rank would annihilate the best team in the worst ranking 3)With your ranking system in place, it would kill the prestige of ToO, it wouldn't mean anything at all to go flawless, and frankly speaking I would much rather they remove ToO completely and just leave regular elimination in 4)this would ruin carries. I'm not a big fan of carries but I know many people are, I'm pretty sure this is self explanatory so I won't explain it
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2 OdpowiedziWhile it is frustrating getting to 5-6 wins then getting smashed, the lag that everyone complains about would only be worse by reducing the amount of players you can actually match up against. At least with everyone in the same group there is a larger player base for the match making to put you against
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2 OdpowiedziTrials should go off how many wins you have on a card for matchmaking.
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Humor me by looking at my recent trials game on my Titan then look up the enemies in trials report. They were up 3-0 and barely won. Look at my stats vs theirs. And explain to me why that match up even happened. Regardless of the fact it came down to a single melee at 4-4 and they barely won. It was a sweaty match I'll admit but there was no reason why they couldn't outplay me. I say me because we'll.. seriously just look up the stats..
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4 OdpowiedziI'm tired of people trying to ruin trials it's fine as it is leave it
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Buff ttk for primaries
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Well bungie need to fix alot of things and only reason the try hards are still plain is they are accepting pay pal to carry people who don't even want to try to get there they just pay 2 sweaty people to carry them through and bungie dose not care about anything except the money they make they don't care about destiny anymore they bf or there money from the dlcs and the game now it's just gonna be a replay where day 1 people get screwed and the system stays rigged they say they are going to fix something g but never do look at there record took them 2 years to fix the thorn that was always broken and now there's more broken weapons that they let slide iron banner is gonna be shit as well because people are gonna go in with the light house weapons and have the overall advantage bungie has no leveling for equality it's just the strong get stronger and the weak stay week it's why they lost so many people in the first place from this game and they are gonna lose more they font listen unless it makes them more money
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31 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika brandon: 10/4/2016 8:14:49 AMSomething needs to change. Anything that will get rid of the cheating asshats would be great. Edit: if anyone is thinking about saying "there's no cheaters" ... don't because you know that's a load of BS. Edit 2: seems like I've drawn out the typical forum trolls. Wooo these people are always fun...
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I'm loving all these people replying with "just get good"..... Lol anyone that says there aren't cheaters in this game are full of it!!
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If you want the some of the best PvP loot in the game you need to be worthy. There comes a time when you need to play people who are better than you and if you're good enough you will adapt and triumph and if you can't, well...you're right where you belong.
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1 OdpowiedźThere were over 60,000 flawless runs this weekend. Obviously people can get there. Just get good.
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I kinda like this idea...only thing I would change or tweak is when you you queue and your rank 25 then I think instead of just looking for only rank 25 players it should do like 25-29..that way its still going by skill lvl and it would make the queue process a little more quick. Or they could just use the true skill rankings off destinytracker because they already do a 1-50 ranking system each individual game type
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25 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Its_Trip: 10/3/2016 11:05:35 PMWhy do people not get this? The lighthouse should not be obtainable for scrubs. You don't see the raid being made easier for people who lack the skill to raid, so why should a PVP event be geared towards helping inexperienced players?
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15 Odpowiedzi[quote]This is RNG in a playlist that should be about skill, not RNG. [/quote] Yet you want to make it easier on low skill players and harder on high skill players? If it's about skill then how about not letting the low skill players get rewarded for nothing and have them raise their skill?
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Considering the cheaters, the A-holes who continue to play to screw people out of getting anythimg, and the people charging for carries. Yes, Bungie should. Or like another person suggested they get placed in a higher tier.
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this would make sense if trials was actually competitive but it isnt ..many just hold back /hardscope /head glitch or run around with tlw because theyre scared of dying.
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2 OdpowiedziRanked should be its own playlist. Trials is fine as it is. If you made it skill based then people would kill their stats to cheat the system and get an easy light house trip. Its fine right now
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3 Odpowiedzilighthouse should give vanity gear only.
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Need 2 to lose a card so i can finish trials record book achievement msg Phant0m Unic0rn xbox one