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Edytowany przez użytkownika Mickey Joystiqs: 7/7/2016 4:55:44 PM
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Trials Of Osiris RUINED

Trials Of Osiris, was a place for teams to compete in elimination against other teams to try and get prizes and 9-0 cards. Where honestly people had a chance to win with a decent amount of skill. People would team up and work together and no quit. Now it's turned into nothing but Twitch streamers carrying, lack of SBMM or CBMM, and breeds an insurmountable amount of hate and hostility towards each other as players. The numbers don't lie there has been a significant drop in new people making it to the light house. It's a consistent same "Sweaties/tryhards" who smash anyone in their path to make it to the lighthouse and then continue to do it for fun. You have people PAYING MONEY to get carried to the light house cause it's so hard to do now with the way it's set up. Year 2 trials is an absolute horrid monster and needs to be slain. Now with this Destiny Trials Reports people are being SHUNNED by others for ELO and stats, and you, Bungie!, who nerfed Gjallarhorn because you didn't like the divide in the community have SHOWCASED this cancer that destroys the community more than anything else you've done to the game has. Trials is no longer fun. It's no longer a challenge. It's a horrible slog that it near impossible to reach the end. SBMM/CBMM is non existent factor that should be implemented as players who have struggled to get where they are go against people who have a breeze to get to the same win and then the players who struggled are knocked back down to peg one to start over or get lagged out. Trials is no longer a friendly community rivalry game mode but a place where people can make money? It's corrupt and breeds hate amongst player base. The top stay at the top while the bottom cannot move up at all. Please fix trials. Go back to Year 1 or make a better formula. Trials is not where you want it to be, and you cannot let it get worse. Please fix Trials. EDIT: Wasn't aware that SBMM wasn't included in Trials. Which is kinda of dumb as again being a team who struggled to get to 5 wins playing against a team who had a breeze getting to 5 wins is still bad. EDIT 2: Not attacking streamers who stream the game, moreso streamers who get paid to carry/carry in general. You're ruining the game mode even more by carrying. EDIT 3: A bracketed rank would be more than ideal as that's how pretty much every other shooter does with their "competitive" game modes, thank you to people in the comments posting their ideas, I appreciate it a lot. And to the people who are against this, all I have to say is "why?" Why would you be against more players having a chance? What's wrong with that? If you're good now, that's not going to change. It'll still be "hard" as you claim it should be. It'll just be a more personalized challenged to you and your team. So why are you against it? You say you're amazing and that it's supposed to be hard and challenging and "not meant for everybody" but how is it hard when you face a lot of teams not even close to you? Scared that when push comes to shove you'll fold? Just wondering tbh... EDIT 4: Never said I personally could not make it to 5 wins. That was used as an example as to why the playing against someone with the same wins isn't as fair as you'd think. And by the way, artificial difficulty, isn't a challenege. It isn't competitive, it's something you're making up to be hard to justify it. Again there is NO reason you should be against changing trials for everyone. The game is 2 years old with the final expansion on its way. It's not a hardcore game in any sense of the word, just let everyone have a chance to get to the light house, and as someone commented below "the real scrubs will fail regardless". Also btw, saying that its supposed to be hard and not for everyone, but then saying carries are okay, should probably leave the post cause you're being very hypocritical. Also this "practice practice practice" mentality isn't always the answer. If you can't even have a chance to put what you've learned to the test and see where you went wrong, Again there is absolutely NO REASON for you to be against this. Even if you don't like SBMM then even CBMM would be better. EDIT 5: Forget to mention something. The current meta, i.e HROF Pulses or Autos/Snipers for the most part. Before in Trials, I could use almost any weapon I wanted to as long as it wasn't complete trash, Suros, Red Death, maybe an Invective for fun. Maybe a slow hand cannon with high impact, you get where I'm going with this. You could have weapon diversity and again, compete. You're competing with other people with YOUR personal favorite guns and set up. But now it's the same everywhere. The meta is also currently killing trials slowly, what happened to really testing your mettle with the weapons and set up you bonded with? Why does the new meta have to be the new meta. Is your chant of "git gud" also "get the same weapons everyone else is using" ? This isnt' going away for three days straight this post has gotten attention from a LOT of people. Keep replying for or against, whatever. This WILL get noticed by Bungie, and WE WILL as a COMMUNITY seek changes.

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  • Edit: #5 We ran outta edits

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    • Trials is garbage and really is like an island all its own. (Garbage Island) meant for the select few you like and thrive on that shit. The gear is the ugliest in the game and aside from 2 weapons all the guns suck too. Whats the big deal, let them have there fun and you focus on your fun.... Most of all stop whining!

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    • [quote] Where honestly people had a chance to win regardless of really skill. [/quote] That right there is 100% false statement. A player like myself had zero ability,let alone chance,to go flawless be it Y1 or Y2 trails. Even 1700+ ELO players couldn't get me a 9-0 run.

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      • I think the biggest problem is that match up setting where 2 wins play 2 wins and 7 wins play 7 wins etc. Because when that happens non-sweaty players will get constantly cut off at 7 or 8 instead of having a lucky chance to be successful

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      • I agree. In year one trials was much more fun and almost all of my friends went flawless at least once, but now I only have like 5 out of like 20 friends that have gone flawless. Oh and I cant forget about lag kicking out your fireteam members and giving you a black screen while the game goes on. Trials is godawful now

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      • Honestly the only reason I care about what goes on in Trials is that is where much of the whining regarding weapon/class balance originates and IMO its ruining the game.

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        • At the minute it's based on equal wins. sbmm would mean any team would have a 3% chance of going to the lighthouse with all boons, that is if every match is a 50/50. That includes people who are good at pvp to thumbless wonders. The LH should not be based on giving you even teams. If you want to go there, you should have to actually be good at pvp. I'm not a fan of streamers and paid LH runs, but that's what you get unfortunately. I think I'd rather it not be based on wins at all and only connection. Trials absolutely shouldn't have SBMM though.

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          • Nothing is sacred from the nerf scrubs and the it's too hard scrubs. Get a grip, just let it be challenging and work on some team play

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            • Edytowany przez użytkownika ZxSaberx: 7/5/2016 6:09:23 PM
              Why not just take out the boons, and red dots. Every time you win counts a 1 , Every time you lose , your Passage Card loses two dots. Eventually you'll get 9 wins but it'll take way longer. Still everyone will still have a chance to go the lighthouse

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              • Well said, Bungie should implement so that if you reach the lighthouse that's it for the week, you can't get trials card until nxt reset. Destiny as a game although lacking in story, saved by it's beautiful FPS mechanics and settings staryed out as mainly a pve game but through lack of contents a lot of player base started playing pvp like myself. All the nerfs only started because of the complaints coming from mostly pvp players and Bungies precious streamers. Gone of the day's when super made you feel like god even if only for momentarily but the supers now? Pre nerfs is just a joke. I can go on and on but what is the point, Bungie will never listen to their loyal fans, which are the pve community.

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              • I've got 40+ (multiple on the same character in one weekend) flawless runs in year 2 where as I had 5 In year one. I'm on the slightly below average side but in year one I was just awful. Played a bunch, learned from mistakes and got better. Now sometimes I'll go flawless 3 times in a row and sometimes it takes me 10 cards to go flawless once. Practice, patience, Sometimes a little luck and guardians you can depend on are all you need to be successful in trials

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                • Edytowany przez użytkownika xlr8huwfred: 7/6/2016 8:53:45 AM
                  looks like someone got rekt on their 9th game

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                • Year 1 trials....... Do you honestly believe the likely hood of you facing a sweaty team will decrease? It won't. 100% it won't. Your writing this thread to try to obtain an easier ride to the light house. This has nothing to do with it being fun. Bungie implemented the bounties for those who do find it difficult to get to the light house. Hell even 7 wins. Every type of player can obtain something from trials every week. This is why lfg is full of posts like "too bounties just chillin" If you can't get to the light house because teams are constantly beating you and you care about that then you need to... go practice in crucible more. All I am reading here is salt. Your mad that it seemed easier in yr1 compared to now and are using all those examples to mask that one thing. Nothing wrong with streamers carrying. Infact would you rather them play with 2 of their super elite buddies and they wipe the floor with you by just farting in your face? No I didn't think so. You write trials is not a challenge any more and yet all I am reading is how hard it is to get to the light house....... because of sweaties.

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                  • damn cry baby. just play some another game

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                    • RUINED! RUINED I TELL YOU! Jeez...

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                    • Trials should not be skill based, it should be completely random. Like year 1 I agree. It's a competitive game type the only one left around, since all other ranked games have been ruined by you gaming pussies with your everyone gets a trophy mentality. I'm not the best, I don't team up with the best. Getting to the lighthouse is a complete struggle, that's what makes it fun and exciting. it's also why everyone is upset when it's down due to connection or update. It is the way it is for a reason to separate it from boring regular crucible, its the best part of the game. Trials separates destiny from other multiplayer games so all you whiny losers take your seedless sacks and play something else before you ruin the best game since halo 2.

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                      • Trials in general needs a tier system. It should scale on the skill level of the entire fireteam. If someone wants to be carried they should be forced to play against someone on the carriers level. I enjoy watching streamers play trials but if you need a streamer to help you get the lighthouse. You dont deserve it

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                        • Sounds like someone got beat by a streamer and is mad about it.

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                        • I like Ike

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                        • In clash of clans we got matched with 4 th11 when we only have 1! Life is so unfair right now I will never be good and do other good things like play video games (zoolander face)

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                        • [quote]Again there is NO reason you should be against changing trials for everyone. The game is 2 years old with the final expansion on its way. It's not a hardcore game in any sense of the word, just let everyone have a chance to get to the light house, and as someone commented below "the real scrubs will fail regardless[/quote] now I'm with you on a lot of points. Maybe all your points except this one. I don't need it easier. I do need to face 3.0 kd's and higher at round 7,8,9. Something like Boss fights. But for the other fights, please find us a match that an average of the 3 teammates kd's on each team are the same or some where in the realm of rationality. I mean its next to impossible to beat a 3.0 kd or higher. I don't know .. may be they wont change it Im just going to learn to snipe. I adapt and learn very fast, so im just gonna make them feel my pain

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                        • The question I have for bungie is why does regular crucible have skill based match making, and the end game for PvP (Trials of Osiris) not? Seems backwards to me. The set up is flawed and needs a new system to encourage more people to play it. Getting to 9-0 is luck of the draw and a pub stomp fest. I don't know about a tier system but at least do some kind of average team combat rating pair up.

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                          • Trials should be tier based IMO.Basically,if you go flawless once then you should get put up a tier if you wish to go again.Highest tier of the week gets unique emblems/ships/sparrows/shaders to keep an incentive there.Im not against people that carry,good on them for giving back.Its the ones that abuse the way ToO is set up to gain money.Right now trials is the place where top players go to stomp others due to SBMM being in place across all other playlists.

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                            • I couldn't agree more, I watch streams and work on getting better but can never get a chance to play because no one will play with me off of forums because of my stats and my friends don't invite me to play because I'm not as good as them. I really like to play trials and I have gotten better from where I was when it started its just near impossible to find a team. I believe something needs to be fixed and I believe everyone should have a shot at the lighthouse. It should be hard to get to the lighthouse but not impossible. As far as streamers doing carries and paying for carries, it shouldn't be that way, I think it's sad it's got to that point. With a little help and practice someone can beat the raid but it's not the same for trials, I'd like to see how many people get to the lighthouse and how many people do not. Let's work on a fair fix to trials so more people have a chance to go flawless.

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                            • Its so simple. Trials needs Bracket play. I dont know why its not a thing already. Probably because cozmo plays with youtubers and streamers all the time. There is zero reason a group of 13-1400 elo players draw a match against a team of 2100elo. Bracket play will only make it more competitive for everyone. People who oppose it just like pub stomping with their elite friends.

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