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1/8/2016 3:51:24 AM
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Soo... The last word..
So.... I've been noticing in crucible lately, a lot of people have been using the last word..
I personally suck at using TLW as my aim with it is crap, bit i get soo salty when i see those three words at the top of my screen every time I die..
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It stats don't match it's damage. It has precision damage perks that allow super distance and extra damage which makes it extra deadly. Anymore nerfing and noone will use it.
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika Aespa Bob Cousy Israeli 6x: 1/9/2016 12:15:43 AMit got less range than a shotgun come on ( plz dont buff keep it as it is )
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29 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Sparatan117: 1/8/2016 6:53:26 AMI feel like everyone who currently says "doesn't need nerf" is someone who uses it on a regular basis. The truth of the matter is that right now, it's the fastest killing primary weapon in the game. Three shots is all it needs to lay someone out. Even the MIDA fully upgraded can't kill someone as quickly from equal range. From what Jon has said in the past, every gun should feel equal in terms of engagement. It should really come down to who has the drop on who and can that person land every shot. In the case with the last word, it can't be said. TLW can kill the attacker, even if they turn and fire late. A sniper can use it in a noob combo scenario from Halo where the sniper will take out the shield, he switches to TLW and kills the person with one hit. Since this is almost impossible to counter, it just gives a lot of people free kills and an easy means of killing with little to no work. That's not how the game was intended to be played. Possible tweaks right now... nerf TLW to shotgun range effectiveness. If the person is within 15 ft... give them the current damage output. Outside of that, where normal primaries would be engaging, make the damage fall off half, so that it takes 6 shots to kill the target. There are 8 shots in the clip, so that's more than enough to kill one target. Most guns can't engage 2 targets on the same mag (in a normal engagement scenario), so this would make TLW fall in line with the rest of the guns.
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Gee I thought Mida was the only thing being used.
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1 OdpowiedźI don't use it, I don't like the gun but I've noticed that people try to use it like a normal hand cannon where you aim down the sights but you can't use TLW that way, you have to get used to hip fire to be effective with it
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1 Odpowiedźhttps://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/185244139/0/0
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So you made a poll based on a weapon that kills you. Yet another crucibaby ruining the things we love.
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I'm confused because last time I checked the last word sucked...like...really sucked.
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Needs a buff (because it sucks)*
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That's the problem with PvP players, you pay more attention to what kills you instead of trying to get better.
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Don't think it needs a damage nerf but I don't think fan fire should activate while ADS.
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All it needs is a slight drop RoF.
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I rarely comment on whether or not something is over-powered, but this is a clear-cut case for me. If you're good with The Last Word then you know that it has always been game-breaking. I originally started using it to counter Suros Regime and I couldn't believe that nobody had figured out its power yet. Once auto rifles were nerfed (and hand cannons were buffed), it became disgustingly overpowered and nothing could compete with it. A lot of the reason the Thorn meta became so strong is because it was a direct counter to The Last Word. In 2.0 it suffered a lot from rebalancing, but was STILL possibly overpowered, and after the most recent patch it has had a great deal of its capacities restored. I'm content with where it sits now but I still think it's dramatically better than any other primary in terms of practical use. If paired with a sniper it's too good. I've always suggested that an appropriate way to balance The Last Word would be to reduce its magazine size to 6 shots.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika EVIL VENOM: 1/8/2016 3:40:43 PMSo you suck at using last word but it needs a nerf to your logic? At this point the way you think about Dolphins, I think they are smarter than you.
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2 OdpowiedziGood lord! Another one? It is completely ineffective at anything other than close range. How is it op? It compliments a sniper as the shotgun goes with a scout or pulse. Get over it and stop with the "I died so the gun must be op."
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It's people like you where our favorite weapons get nerfed stop whining and get over it I get killed by it all the time too
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It doesn't need neef, whatever a neef is
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1 OdpowiedźYour own poll says no lol
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I think its good where it is atm, but i want some primarys to get buffs that they would work as it was supposed to, not much weapon variaty cos most suks and only couple of them are relevant
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4 OdpowiedziYou said it yourself that you're not good at using it. People that aren't good at a certain would want it nerfed. TLW is good where it's at. If you're not from yr 1 you wouldn't understand how OP TLW were before prior to the 2.0 patch.
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1 OdpowiedźIts range is the issue. I was getting outshot with first curse on monento from the two upper hallways above the heavy that spawns on the roof. First curse is supposed to be the range hancannon and TLW is supposed to be the cqc so how does that even happen.
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Your own comment proves that it doesn't need any changes - it requires skill to use. I sucked with it in Y1, even when it had crazy range as you have to get used to hip firing and, now in Y2, learn the range that it's effective at. I'm happy to be killed by TLW - it sounds a looks cool and is easy enough to counter, just jump backwards out of range :)
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Its does not exactly what it's supposed to it's the best primary at close range but quickly falls off
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Your gamertag is appropriate for this post
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1 OdpowiedźIt does not need "neef"... Nuff said B)
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18 OdpowiedziI think it needs a damage nerf. It does way too much damage for its fire rate. All rapid fire weapons in the game do less damage per shot except TLW. It should take 5-6 shots to kill not 3-4. They should also increase mag size to 12.
