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Edytowany przez użytkownika mysticalgoateye :
12/13/2015 10:46:20 PM
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Sunbreaker nerf was way overboard!
How is this a slight nerf? This is way overboard!!!
Sunbreaker
Melee
Titan Melee: Extend Titan Melee range (+12.5%)
Sunstrike: Decrease DOT Time (6.5s ->5.5s)
Super
Hammer of Sol: Reduce Damage Resistance during Super (-9.09%)
Hammer of Sol: Slow Hammer travel speed by (-1.32%)
Passives
Forgemaster: Reduce Splash damage detonation radius multiplier (-20%)
Flameseeker: Turn down Hammer tracking bonus (-25%)
Flameseeker: Remove +1 Recovery, and +1 Agility stat bonuses
Fleetfire: Added +1 Agility stat
Firekeeper: Added +1 Recovery stat
Cauterize: Added cooldown (0s -> 3s)
Movement
Catapult Lift: Faster Initial velocity (+5%)
Edit: I would like to thank all the people who respectfully commented. I don't mind if you think differently about the nerf as long as you are not a jerk about it.
Edit 2: wow!! Over 200 comments!
Edit 3: over 300!!! Woohoo!! Keep it going guys!! :)
Edit 4: 500 overnight!!! Wow!
Edit 5: 600?!?!? I can't believe it! It seems like the majority think that the sunbreaker nerf was fine. We will see.
Edit 6: how is sunbreaker overpowered if I can fight two of them kill one and survive the other? Btw this was pre nerf
Edit 7: I just direct hit a warlock and he didn't die!! I think that's enough proof that it was an overboard nerf. Also the warlock didn't have a super or shield. Just a plain warlock that survived a point-blank hammer.
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To be fair I main a titan, well I did, I'm now warlock, to me the nerf is good, sunbreakers aren't freak anyway, you can just run off most of the time, I run striker now... Because hammer isn't that realise imo
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1 OdpowiedźClass nerfs don't bother me most of my kills come with guns :-)
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Who cares sunbreakers garbage
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Dude. They went overboard with Sunbreakers' abilities to begin with. Makes sense to also go overboard with the nerf. GG Bungie.
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Perfect NERF either tracking or splash is all I wanted nerfed
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6 OdpowiedziIt's actually not that bad other supers can actually compete against it now
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Tbf I agree with this. I have mained titan from the 9th of September 2014. When we got Sunbreaker i was so happy to get a good pvp class. I do however see the imbalance it has caused. E.G: most tanky super (bar mid FoH with unstoppable) Most amount of damage In a super (roughly the same as a GG with splash and tracking and Chain explosions) And it's the fastest what with titan skipping. So no I agree with these nerfs because they buffed striker and defender (if defender was only a little) and they've really just brought it to where it was meant to be. Now our hammers need to be a little bit more aimed and less "fire and forget" We need to make sure to doge good snipers and other strong supers (GG mainly) Oh and we can now think about running other builds besides cautarize and forge master.
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Ha! Sunbreakers crying all over because they're like every other guardian now, kind of worried how it will perform against strike boses
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They nerfed a lot of things, but only slightly, alongside buffing some other aspects. I think this is a great starting point for trying to balance this class
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10 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Moot: 12/6/2015 3:32:54 PMYeah yeah whatevs, where's my voidwalker buff? [spoiler]and sunsinger buff. And gunslinger buff. And bladedancer buff.[/spoiler]
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6 OdpowiedziHonestly I wish that sun breakers didn't get nerfed and I main a hunter and very rarely use a Titan I find it fun to fight sun breakers in the crucible because it's a challenge I don't see why people need to hate so much
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I see a buff... where is that nerf?
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Edytowany przez użytkownika SirJ2theK: 12/7/2015 6:50:57 PMJust read the numbers... Holy Shit Christmas Miracles do Happen.
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Remember when titans said we hunters are the whiny class? Look at the titans now lol. [spoiler] not saying all titans are, I've just been seeing some titans whine about this nerf. [/spoiler]
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11 OdpowiedziThe cool down was a bit much i mean blade dancer doesn't have it and I've seen a guy wipe a team then proceeded to spawn kill half of it because his health kept coming back he got 4 with one shock wave
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I know numbers are intimidating but if you use math you'd see it not that bad.
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1 OdpowiedźOh god! Now I have use [i]skill[/i] while using my super?! Smh
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika Hulkksmash: 12/7/2015 3:04:14 PMI agree with all but the flight speed and tracking nerf. Theres already air time for the hammers that are easily avoidable. There is videos of the tracking where its next to nothing and now they took the stats from it. Taking the stats away, putting them on fleet foot (like they did), and giving 10% increase to the tracking would have created options. Increase nuetral game or get the couple kills little easier on super. Seriously tracking was non existent before and now its basically nothing. Just a stupid nerf for a broken perk.
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2 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Hork3r: 12/7/2015 1:56:08 PM[b][u]Nerfs:[/u][/b] [u]Melee[/u] Sunstrike: Decrease DOT Time (6.5s ->5.5s) [i]doesn't one hit low armors anymore[/i] [u]Super[/u] Hammer of Sol: Reduce Damage Resistance during Super (-9.09%) [i]from 55% to 50%[/i] Hammer of Sol: Slow Hammer travel speed by (-1.32%) [i]very minor[/i] [u]Passives[/u] Forgemaster: Reduce Splash damage detonation radius multiplier (-20%) Flameseeker: Turn down Hammer tracking bonus (-25%) Flameseeker: Remove +1 Recovery, and +1 Agility stat bonuses Fleetfire: Added +1 Agility stat Firekeeper: Added +1 Recovery stat Cauterize: Added cooldown (0s -> 3s) [u][b]Buffs:[/b][/u] [u]Movement[/u] Catapult Lift: Faster Initial velocity (+5%) [u]Melee[/u] Titan Melee: Extend Titan Melee range (+12.5%) The most problematic abilities of the subclass were tuned. Some more, some less.
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I don't think hammer speed nerf was necessary but every thing else is good.
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3 OdpowiedziYour tears quench my thirst.
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Well they still are op... just be quite and suck it up titan
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I think this nerf is appropriate. It doesn't change the lethality or effectiveness of a Suncharge/Explosive Pyre/Simmering Flames build or the effectiveness of a Scorched Earth/Thermal Vent/Fire Keeper build. They toned down armor, to put it in line with other supers, made hammers travel marginally slower so sniping people with them would be harder, and nerfed the Forgemaster/Flameseeker/Cauterize build, to put it in line with the other two builds I mentioned up top. All looks good to me.
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Nerfed to bring balance. Think about it...a precision knife throw from a hunter can't one shot someone with the burn on - that's what they changed the Titan melee to. The hammers were insanely difficult to dodge or avoid - so they slowed down the hammers slightly and reduced the tracking. Sunbreakers had way too much health that a sniper couldn't one shot them in the head (the only super like that) - I assume they can be one shotted now just like every other super. Plus the fixed the biggest issue about Titans...the melee range woo! No more t Rex arms.
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2 OdpowiedziJust goes to show how broken it actually was. It will still be he best super after moderate nerfs.
