Here's my thoughts on the current meta. What do you guys think about the current meta and the sniper situation? Are the OP or are people just complaining?
Edit: Just to clarify I don't think snipers need to be nerfed. I think hidden hand and litc need to be changed or removed but snipers aside from that are fine.
Edit 2: Thanks for keeping it mostly civil and intelligent conversations. TheGreatNike has spoken scroll down to bathe in his wisdom.
Edit 3: RIP Litc September 2015-December 2015 you will not be missed.
[b][u]Please watch the whole video so you don't take any of the points I make out of context[/u][/b]
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5 OdpowiedziThey are not.. The amount of aim assist that comes with them IS
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3 OdpowiedziU have a sniper equipped on all your characters so stfu
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3 OdpowiedziAll aim assist does is slows down the reticle when it's on someone's body
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5 OdpowiedziNo snipers aren't, aim assist is.
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2 OdpowiedziNo theyre not overpowered... I actually like them the way they are... but unlike other games, the snipers fire rate is faster with a higher aim assist.... not bad.... but its the main reason mostly anyone with patience and practice can use it really well
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1 OdpowiedźPeople like you are the reason everything gets nerfed every few months and why ARs still blow
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3 OdpowiedziNo, I just feel like they are very strong right now. That's mostly because they are the only long range special weapon, and shotguns got nerfed. Fusion rifles are very weak right now, and while sidearms are good for stopping shotgun rushes, they can't do much else. Snipers are in a very good position, and that's all there is to it.
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4 OdpowiedziAre you serious. Are you really -blam!-ing serious. First it was fusion rifles Then it was shotguns Now we're saying snipers are too OP Just shut up
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5 OdpowiedziThey should require you to hold your breath for more steady aim like they do in other games.
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1 OdpowiedźI think that a vast number of people who inhabit this forum will complain about anything that kills them regularly and refuse to accept any responsibility for their deaths in the crucible, no matter what the "meta" is. I can't remember the last time I saw so much variety in the crucible. Bungie make adjustments based on the hard data, not the crying that happens on bnet. I think trying to have a logical discussion about weapon balance here is pointless. Crucible requires you to think about your loadout and then play to it, which, imo is infinitely more fun and interesting than everyone being given identical guns and armour.
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1 OdpowiedźThe day has come, people think snipers are op. Just wow.
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Are you serious. Are you really -blam!-ing serious. First it was fusion rifles Then it was shotguns Now we're saying snipers are too OP Just shut up
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You know you will get flack from guys who don't know guns are for killing... Just a warning: LITC causes anxiety among those who think sniper rifles shoot sponges and not deadly bullets! They think 3080 fps and 3159 ft.lbs aren't devastating at 1000 yards! They actually think a single body shot landing energy equivalent to exploding 1 gram of TNT shouldn't kill. When dealing with people who think guns designed to one shot kill 1 mile away are OP, you just got to yawn and move on... Good luck...
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3 OdpowiedziI think if hidden hand goes I will have the perfect roll on my sniper
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1 OdpowiedźI can get four headshots with a couple four on a moving target. Therefore something is broken because I'm terrible with snipers, I can barely hit jackels in halo with them. Only way I generally get a headshot is if they a stationary.
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Are you serious. Are you really -blam!-ing serious. First it was fusion rifles Then it was shotguns Now we're saying snipers are too OP Just shut up
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1 OdpowiedźI didn't watch the whole video, but did you mention the "Range" stat? Range stat actually takes effect in TTK now. It was also confirmed by a Bungie game designer that the more Range you have, the more Aim Assist you have as well. A 1000-Yard Stare has a higher base Aim Assist value than Her Benevolence and has the same Range value as well. Even Her Benevolence with Shortgaze + Hidden Hand simply cannot compete with a 1000-Yard Stare that has the same perks, and the thing is, it is possible to get one 1000-Yard Stare with those perks! The base Aim Assist value is a stupid value if you want my opinion. Range + scope should be the only thing that changes any of that in my opinion.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika The Warrior: 11/18/2015 2:10:12 PMOp is the wrong tern to use but they need some tweaking Now way should someone being able to quick scope you for ten yards away with a sniper that easy and revives should be able to take slightly more than a headshot
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2 OdpowiedziNo sway= overpowered My biggest gripe with sniping in this game
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They need a buff so does every single weapon in the game so people stop crying. Oh you got shot 50+ feet away by a shotgun and died? Good. Get together with your buddies and try that in real life the same result will happen. Oh you were shot by a .50 caliber sniper in the shoulder and died? Good. Get together with your buddies and try that in real life the same result will happen. Oh you were shot in the gut by a pistol or machine gun and died? Good. Get together with your buddies and try that in real life the same result will happen. This is a troll but seriously people cry to much about everything because they die by something. It's a multilayer game it happens you don't see other games destroying guns to make kids happy.
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Snipers are fine, the real issue is still special weapons as a whole, there has not been one point in the lifetime of the game where some form of special weapon was complained about, and every nerf to special ammo can't seem to fix the problem, I think special ammo needs to be addressed again, but not necessarily just another nerf to the amount of ammo.
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The sniper meta is fine just remove luck in the chamber.
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5 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Polpadare: 11/19/2015 12:23:43 PM
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1 OdpowiedźI personally hate going up against ppl using fast firing snipers like I'll be dead by the time I get a sniper shot off
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2 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Deathevilmistri: 11/18/2015 6:45:15 AMJust get rid of the crosshair moves slower across the body aim assist.