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10/20/2015 12:55:01 PM
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Are hand cannons just a bungie troll?
How the hell do you get pvp kills with them?
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If you ever get your hands on one, the first curse is awesome for PVE. feels just like the old hand cannons. feels good :)
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They got the vex mythoclast treatment.
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7 OdpowiedziBungie effectively gave hand cannons the death sentence as a result of having to listen to a 24/7 bitch fest on how unfair they were IMO. They couldn't just completely remove them, so they just made them mostly useless.
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I've got a Byronic Hero with triple tap, explosive rounds, and reactive reload so it's pretty good in PvP.
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26 OdpowiedziOnce upon a time not long ago handcannons were only used by the most skilled guardians. Then came along the allmighty vicious thorn which reigned supreme in the crucible slowly devouring all that stood before it. The elders decided that which such a powerfull handcannon in existence all handcannons needed to be nerfed into the faking ground. Now handcannons only hold a mere glimps of the power they once wielded and the elders are only releasing crappy and ugly ones with horrible sound effects and range to prevent guardians from ever using them again. The end
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6 Odpowiedzi"Are hand cannons just a bungie troll?" It's clear Bungie had a plan for them at one time. But, now..., I don't think they have a clue. I mean, why is it now we can have a 'hand cannons' as a primary and a 'sidearm' as a secondary? Both are short-barrel-pistol-grip weapons....
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You just pray the bullets hit the target. Seriously, their accuracy is shit now. The reticle could be right on target but it doesn't hit. Whiny scrubs complained about two weapons when only one of them was actually OP, and the entire class received a substantial nerf. Hope everyone enjoys the pulse rifle meta :-)
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Hand Cannons are still good PvP-wise, but they now require more than just "pull the trigger". Since their accuracy has been substantially nerfed, not every cannon works for every map. Some like Twilight Gap, Anomaly, and Sector 618 are meant for TLW to shine. Others like Widow's Court, Bannerfall, and Exodus Blue are great for Hawkmoon. As an avid HC user, TLW and Hawkmoon are by far the best guns of this class to compete against Pulse Rifles and Auto Rifles. Sadly, my Eyasluna or any other legendary Hand Cannon cannot beat those type of weapons regularly without having perks like LitC or Rifled Barrel, Smallbore, etc. Bottom line, Hand Cannons now require more awareness from the player and their criteria to choose engagements carefully. After all, 8 to 11 bullets in the mag and all you can rely is on the impact and not much else.
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Dude, I feel you. I loved hand cannons before Y2. I was a hand cannon maniac. I miss my Timurs Lash, and Ill will so much it hurts. They seriously need hand cannons into the ground for PVP.
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I'm guessing you're talking about Imprecation. That particular weapon was a major pain in the ass. My two high-impact hand cannons, Timur's Lash and Judith-D, both have about three times the range and twice the stability, which made it challenging to adapt. Yeah, I'm sure they set the difficulty level high on purpose...
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Edytowany przez użytkownika RoflBiscuit: 10/23/2015 1:27:10 PMHave you not heard of Byronic Hero? That thing does wonders for me for being a Y2 hand cannon,
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5 OdpowiedziHawkmoon's little sister is pretty pro with the right rolls. But good luck getting that.
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I do pretty well with my Vanity.... You just need a feel for them. It personal preference... That's all
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11 Odpowiedzi'oh you suck, you're gay, you can't aim for shit' Is all you're going to get on these forums. Hand cannons are alright in crucible not competitive at all. Hawkmoon is still good that's it. They nerfed them hard and I'm pretty sure they're the least used primaries in crucible and eventually bungie will buff them. That's just how shit goes in destiny.
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I don't get an issue other than with the raid one. Zoulis bane is apparently shit handcannons
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1 OdpowiedźAim then shoot is what I've found to work best
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3 Odpowiedzi"How the hell do you get pvp kills with them?" Bungie doesn't want to tell you. Because, if they did they would have to 'nerf' it in the next update. Oh, wait..., they already did that to 'hand cannons' and 'shotguns' and everything else we found useful.
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Three things to get kills with hand cannons in crucible: One: get close Two: aim good and hit head Three: don't expect to hit cross map and still have full damage like thorn in year one
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1 OdpowiedźBungie can't nerf things properly. When suros was op, all auto rifles were nerfed. Same thing with exotic hand cannons. IMO opinion the range and accuracy nerfs were way too severe.
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You have to be within spitting distance and pray your perfectly aimed shot doesn't randomly disappear. RIP hand cannons.
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I don't have any problems getting hand cannon kills. Hawkmoon is still decent. TLW is also. Just avoid anything higher than medium range. And if they are using a pulse rifle avoid medium range for close.
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Thorn just balanced out titans Pre ttk since our sub classes where barely lethal :P
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They pretty much need truesight or sureshot to be viable in my experience. I can't hit shit half the time with Hawkmoon.
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3 OdpowiedziAim for the head? I don't understand how you can be bad with them
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17 OdpowiedziInstead of nerfing thorn and tlw, they nerfed the entire class to shit. Aim for the head, bullet goes 3 ft left. Idiots.
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1 OdpowiedźI miss using legendary hand cannons. They used to be so much fun. They even suck in PvE now too. Even if your aim is always good, you'll likely find yourself out of ammo constantly. With any other primary type, that's extremely rare. It's like they're actively trying to make people stop using them.
