Even if a goofy lawsuit like this was actually brought up for international arbitration, my bet would be that Bungie would just pull the plug on serving the UK all together instead of forking over free content and then having to do so everywhere else. Better watch what you ask for lol.

I guess I have to ask, does anyone ever read the ELUA? Secondly if they would have been honest up front and indicated that there we paywalls every 4 months who in their right mind would have purchased the game for what would have been left behind. Most casuals would not have gotten thru most of the content before being locked out. Thirdly Bungie set a precedent (by definition"Establish a usage, tradition, or standard to be followed in the future") by allowing vanilla players to procede in level maintaining access to some end game (weekly, daily and nightfall) and PvP (Iron Banner) as a standard. As well as full access to new armour and weapons from vendors and factions. This alone should be enough to send red flags up to any judicial system as they have thru their actions implied trends of access to said content would follow the norms of previous expansions.

This is for faulty goods and gives people the ability to receive a refund up to 30 days after their purchase, which is what people used a standard for "reasonable time limit". Unless your game is broken, you still have no leg to stand on. And there's nothing in it about paywalls except that if you pay for early access to a feature or virtual goods and you can't access those virtual goods because of a server side issue, you might get money back. Yes, I know people will try to use that as a loophole but it's not what they intended. This is for people that have a broken game, not for people that are unhappy with how a game's update path works.

Bungie, Activision, and destiny are all grandfathered in. Too late now lmao. Any laws in effect after the game and or dlc release are null and void.

Lmao I'll say good bye to all the UK players now because they will not bend or sell to you lot.

Uh....no. Yes to the first....NO, ot the second. What the article is saying that the developer/publisher is required to sell you a game that WORKS...and can't hide behind digital purchases to deny you a refund if they can't make the game work in a reasonable amount of time. That is a VERY reasonable---and very appropriate----law to protect consumers from games that are being rushed out the door to meet deadlines, haven't been properly beta-tested, and fail to work properly on launch day. Unfortunately, I've gotten stuck with too many of those kinds of game (cough...SimCity...cough). You were sold a license...but one to use a product that is clearly defective and does not work as advertised. But the law---as it is being describedhe----does not apply to what people are agry about here. That they bought access to a changing on-line game....and now they find that they no longer have access to a value-added service that the developer added to the game...because they chose not purchase the most current content. Your copy of Destiny still works...and you have access to all the Year One CONTENT you paid to have access to. The end-game has moved on to Year Two...and Bungie has decided that it is neither feasible to support a Seperate Year One end game, or to continue to keep progressing Year One players into Year Two if they refuse to by the Year Two Content.

*pulls up blog article* [quote]For the first time anyone who buys faulty goods is entitled to a full refund for up to 30 days after the purchase. Before the change, consumers were only entitled to refunds for a "reasonable time".[/quote] They clarified what it already is in the United States. Good for you Europe. That took 10 years to do? Well good for you. *keeps reading* [quote][quote]Here's the detail under the "digital content to be of satisfactory quality" section of the Act:[/quote] It is the norm to encounter some bugs in a complex game or piece of software on release so a reasonable person might not expect that type of digital content to be free from minor defects. Consequently the application of the quality aspect 'freedom from minor defects' to digital content will depend on reasonable expectations as to quality. As with goods, quality does not refer to subjective judgements as to the artistic value of the content itself (e.g. whether or not a book was interesting or well written).[/quote] [quote]As with goods, quality does not refer to subjective judgements as to the artistic value of the content itself (e.g. whether or not a book was interesting or well written).[/quote] Why did they include that? It's already part of the Consumer Rights and Protection Acts in over 170 countries. Unless they did a swap law (replacing one law with a new one. This is done by politicians to revise very small or very large laws and specify new conditions. In doing so, they eliminate previous versions which might be outdated or to help clarify outdated sentence structures within laws. This is done in every country around the globe.) this typically doesn't warrant notes for a new law. Still though, meh. The law didn't change. It's better specified that if: A) Satisfactory Quality (you can't have dedicated server quality being suppressed to lower qualities) B) Fit For Purpose (We are entitled to have gameplay features as described to us) C) As described. (Make sure your quotes are in line with the expectations standard set by the industry. Like Halo: MCC? We have Multiplayer! No one can access the servers or the servers crash and no patch updates applied fix it. You didn't get multiplayer. You can keep the game and get a refund.) Please also note though that if you are an Xbox One user, paying for the Xbox Live service right now? This law applies. They can't deny you access to a service you paid for since 8:23 PST this morning. 6 hours is the expected time frame in the industry right now both for the 360 and the One to have core services fixed and running again. What does that mean? We just hit the mark on the head roughly 15 minutes ago. If you want a 24 hour refund for not being able to sign in to the service? Go to xbox.com/support...

[b]RUBBISH[/b] Read act .... doesn't help with "pay wall" matters at all as it addresses consumer rights if they purchase faulty product. As an aside, this change to the act adds little to no additional protection to existing British consumer protection and rights laws. As one respondent observed, this change reads more like back bench HoC beatup.

The U.K. just now got this? The US has always had consumer protection laws. That $200 can opener doesn't work out of the box? Take it back for a full refund or store credit for $200.

I'm curious as to how this will apply to updates and more importantly...future expansions. I enjoy Destiny enough to continue to purchase their newest stuff so I've not been locked out of content. For people who dont purchase though, it's got to be rough. No nightfall, you can't wear 280 gear, you can't earn marks to buy the better stuff, no dailies, you get the idea. The base game changed so much its ridiculous to think that the current practice is considered acceptable..

Well at least it is a start, a poor one at that, but... They do not take into consideration that a corp can and does change a game at a later date which, like what Bungie has done, removes content that was removed from the game so that you cannot play portions that were available. At least they seem to be trying to do something... to bad those that wrote it up didn't play Destiny from the beginning, and read all the hype, and experienced what Bungie has done to the people that have paid so much just to have it removed.

The only problem is Raids Crota VoG Stiles TDB HoW Story missions Vanilla TDB HoW With those explanations is the end games Weekly nightfall Weekly heroic Daily story You Haven't been locked out

There is MASSIVE mis information being spread on this thread Here is the deal . Any country can make any law they want. If you want to trade in that country or with consumers in that country then you 100% must follow the laws of the land or you will be open to prosecution. location of you company does not matter. US law does not matter. otherwise we would have companies shipping toxic waste toys and plastic milk to the USA and from the USA...

The UN would have to decide how Bungie has to respond to UK laws. Bungie is based in Seattle I believe, or at least somewhere in Washington state. Therefore, they're on US territory, and bound by US laws. If a UK law is against their practices, then the UN has to decide on how Bungie must respond.

With the how refund part that will have to come from the retailer since you did not directly purchase the game from bungie.

That law doesn't mean anything to Bungie or Activision since they are not based in the U.K.

Now we need similar legislation in the US!