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Edytowany przez użytkownika Olafaloofian:
11/5/2015 10:50:23 PM
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Convince me that the Sunbreaker's armor is fair.
In case you all didn't know, a Sunbreaker can survive the following things while supering:
-High-Impact Sniper Headshot
-High-Impact Shotgun/Melee Combo
-Direct Rocket Hit
-Golden Gun Shot
-Two Blade Dance Swings
-Two Sword Hits
Compared to the other three "drain-over-time" supers, the armor on the Sunbreaker super totally outclasses all of them. I really don't get how it's fair.
I've heard it said that the balance of the Sunbreaker class is its low mobility. This is completely ludicrous. Titans using the "Increased Control Skate" method can literally catch up to any other class trying to run away.
I've also heard it said that Hammer of Sol is hard to hit people with. Again, completely false. Unless you're a n00b who doesn't know how to aim, all you have to do is enable tracking hammers, and the ridiculous aim assist and splash damage will take care of the rest. You don't even have to completely hit someone with the hammer for them to die.
Here are some reports from Bungie about Hammer of Sol over-performing:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155195608/0/0/1 - Sunbreakers have highest K/D
http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833 - Luke Smith says he does unnaturally good with Sunbreakers
So go ahead. Tell me how all this is fair. Simply saying is fair because it's apparently the "tank class" doesn't cut it (Bungie really hasn't created each class for a purpose like that). I'll reiterate. SAYING TITANS ARE THE SO-CALLED "TANK" CLASS IS NOT A GOOD ARGUMENT. If Destiny is set up to have the three traditional MMO classes, why aren't Hunters the fastest by far? Why isn't Warlock recovery near-instantaneous? Besides, in every other game I've ever played, a "Tank" can not deal out damage as fast as other classes. Titans get the best of both worlds- highest armor, quickest movement speed, and the best total-damage super in the game.
And if you say "ermahgersh but Sunbreekers hav bad neutral gayme", here's my response: http://youtu.be/pVd7UbfVrvI
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#Destiny
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I'd rather not convince you, and let you continue to cry your salty tears over a video game.
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1 OdpowiedźTitan is the Warrior Hunter is the Rouge Warlock is the Mage
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The armor would be fair if movement speed was considerably lowered mid super. Now trying to explain how instant health regen on a mid range duration super is fair is a whole other question.
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Watch "Clutch Master Clutch" on YouTube https://youtu.be/uhhu1_4KF6w -blam!- sunbros.. Sorry i didn't really mean it titan master race
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They have to have armor, how else will they have the time to throw all those flaming nova bombs?
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I flew today
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1 OdpowiedźSo, who forgot about the ram helmet? How was another class with high recovery allowed to have more armour than a titan? Where was the balance there? Bring the peregrine greave back and I'll challenge sunbreakers all day long.
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The armor is perfectly fair if the Titan was slow. What is unfair is how fast the Titan is. The Titan wouldn't be that OP if you could easily run away from him
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2 OdpowiedziLack of neutral play
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Convince me life is fair.....
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Bladedancer should have more armor than. Basically saying make hunters more damage resistant than titans [spoiler]listen to yourself[/spoiler]
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4 OdpowiedziWhat about the amount of time it takes to kill a sunbreaker while in stormtrance?
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2 OdpowiedziI've personally one shot a sunbreaker with my 1000 yard stare and golden gun. I think they were ninja nerfed. Their area of effect for hammers is not as big as it used to be either. And for some reason they hammers don't track. Hammers are fair. Should only be 4 hammers tho and not more unless have exotic armor.
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6 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Slack: 11/3/2015 8:22:26 AM"Help, I've fallen and I can't git gud"
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3 OdpowiedziTitans get 3 hammers, 4 with perk. Fixed
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12 OdpowiedziTitans are supposed to have the highest armor, so I think it's fine if they survive a sniper headshot, shotgun, even rocket. I think, however, that supers should a one shot one kill sort of deal, no matter what. My biggest thing about the hammers is the area of affect. I'm constantly being killed around corners and behind walls by them.
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The wedge cases of sunbreakers surviving things that should kill them hinge around use of the armor that gives extra armor for x element subclass. People seem to ignore that these perks were introduced in this expansion as well and if they hadn't the armor wouldn't be an issue. I think reducing sunbreaker armor is a decent solution if not overdone, but another solution you could take is changing those armor perks to only apply to minions of the darkness. Adding extra armor has always been more overpowered in crucible than in pve. Ram complaints of yesteryear come to mind.
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Warlock is good where it is at. Hunters can use a small buff for bd.
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There's also a perk that boosts agility after hammer kills
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This is only if they have max armor and a chest with more armor for solar subclass (I don't have a chest, so I experience the one-shots)
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To be honest sunbreakers sucked in trials didn't run with one and destroyed everyone we played, we also had atleast 1-2 nightstalker a wrecked on defensive super play, no need for aggressive super play just makes it easier for the opposite team
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I'm in Trials and I have to man up and challenge a Sunbreaker lol They expect us to run away and then they will be free to revive lol. Take a Headshot and a Primary Shot you nerd (;
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Edytowany przez użytkownika UnknownD3fekt,Kell of Buns: 11/2/2015 5:31:03 PMNerf me idc. There are other skills in the tree that will make me more of a bitch then cauterize lol
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2 OdpowiedziI'm not even tripping. A nerf is eminent to happen. Cozmo or whoever the hell, said its already being looked into. Count your days Titans because it's going to happen soon. ;)
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I didnt read all that text, but did you know that sunbreakers will only survive those IF and ONLY IF they are specced for max armor?
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Whoops was that a suppressor grenade. Sry what super were we talking about
