Enough said.
1) My favorite weapon type, Pulse Rifles, are now overpowered. Messenger and Red Death are ridiculous and I refuse to use them in this current state. Every good PvP player knew pulse rifles would be overtuned if left unchanged. You made all of these great weapon changes in 2.0 yet left the elephant in the room alone, so now we're stuck with the equivalent of Thorn/TLW 2.0 for who knows how many months. The weapon balance in this game feels great until someone on the other team starts using one of these two weapons. Pulse rifles need to be scaled back. Please don't take 6 months to do this.
2) However, that's not my real problem. My main gripe is the fact that Stormcaller and Sunbreaker are completely overpowered in 6v6 PvP and they've taken what little skill was left out of this game. See, before these supers were introduced, every "mobile" super had a down side: Golden Gun had no damage resistance and Bladedancer required melee range.
With the introduction of Stormcaller/Sunbreaker, this balance has been completely ruined; there's no weakness to either of these supers, especially Sunbreaker - [b]both supers are mobile, both supers are ranged and both supers have damage resistance.[/b] Hammer of Sol freaking tracks its targets for crying out loud. In a 6v6 environment these supers are simply broken, especially with randoms. Nightstalkers only make a trivial difference without coordination, and even then it won't be enough.
I've never been so frustrated with this game's PvP than I have been for the last week. I could deal with the idiocy that was Thorn and bugged TLW. I could deal with the laser beam that was Suros back at release. I could deal with Felwinter's sniper. However, the current state of things is just too much. Every time I see one of these classes pop their super, they almsot always manage to get 4-5 kills. These new supers need to be tuned, period. [b]There's a reason that Golden Gun didn't have damage resistance [/b]- because everyone and their mother knew that it would be retardedly broken. Yet, that's exactly what you've given Sunbreakers and (for the most part) Stormcallers.
inb4 this post is downvoted by a bunch of 1.0 KDR Titans who act as if Striker wasn't a fantastic PvP spec already
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1) there will always be community deemed op weapons. my hand cannon still does fantastic in crucible. 2) storm callers downside is how slow it is and how it doesn't kill people instantly. sun breakers is how slow you are and how the hammers have travel time. tracking has to be specced into. you're just whining.
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1 OdpowiedźWhen people say sunbreaker isn't OP https://youtu.be/o-5EFLzE4KQ Took a golden gun shot and kept trucking
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I can stand red death, however shot guns piss me off
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I want Sunbreaker to have an exotic that gives them even more armor in hammer of Sol. That super is AWESOME and I want it to be as overpowered as possible.
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11 OdpowiedziSo you were overpowered with golden gun for a year and now your complaining? Wow haha
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26 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Empyreanzz: 9/21/2015 10:55:24 PMYou summoned me.
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Play Nightstalker as a trapper, area denial and you'll have fun, especially on objective game types.
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2 OdpowiedziCan I please have this armour buff that all other storm callers apparently have? A shotgun blast will drop me at full health also you move slow asf, you can't sprint and you have to get within shotgun range to hit someone and get this, it isn't an instant kill. It's good but no where near op asf. Idk how many times I've ended up wandering the map until it runs out cause you can't find someone and you move slow.
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>implying the crucible was ever a place of skill in the first place. [spoiler]minus no land beyond. With that you actually needed skill. [/spoiler]
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Stormcaller and Sunbreaker are fine. Pulses are also fine, [i]except[/i] for the low RoF, high Impact variants, ala. Messenger and, to an extent, Red Death. Other variants with different stat weights are fine. Messenger will be unusable when Trials and IB come out; a small consolation, I know, but still something to consider. Red Death is strong, agreed, and can be taken into both Trials and IB. Honestly, I don't see it as quite as potent as the Hand Cannons and Suros of yore, but it's definitely the current king. Not too sure what could be done with it outside of a small nerf to accuracy from range- maybe less Target Acquisition? That way it's still a monster, but can't drop you from ranges that would make a Scout Rifle blush.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika NovaRush44: 9/21/2015 10:50:17 PMAt first I thought you was some biased pleb who mains a hunter and calls out for a nerf whenever he is killed by it. Reading further, I agree with you. The damage resistance is rediculous, especially hammer of sol. A [u][i]RANGED[/i][/u] [u][i]MOBILE[/i][/u] super should not have a single trace of damage resistance.
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Red death is no longer OP
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Wow. Somebody's tired of getting their ass kicked.
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I think all the supers are fine and I've never had this much fun in the crucible before and I play a lot of crucible plus the night stalker is amazing !!!!!
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Mind if I use this thread as a salt mine?
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1 OdpowiedźI'm annoyed that the nightstalker doesn't shut down a super on contact, only on tether. By the time they're tethered I'm already dead. I'm staying away from PvP for awhile unless I have too. So I'm with you.
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3 OdpowiedziThank you Bungie for making the new titan and floofer supers so good. It makes it extremely satisfying when I shut them down. Signed, A back shooting nightstalker
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Watch once they change the meta op will start complaining about it like every butthurt pvp'er out there
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6 OdpowiedziSo now you know the feeling of hearing a super being popped and running the other direction. Us warlocks and Titans have been doing this against hunters since release. Get used to listening and then running. My advice, cry more pussy.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Darlin': 9/21/2015 8:44:43 PMFirst off Pulse Rifles were always this good. The only difference is that you don't have guns like thorn and last word to overshadow them and make them feel like they need skill. Youre just complaining about how you don't feel special any more using these guns. As for the new supers use Nightstalker to immobilize them and shoot them from afar. Or learn to snipe. BTW they barely have any damage reduction
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1 OdpowiedźI just think it's bs that I can't kill sunbreakers with my longbow... they survive with a tiny bit of Health
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika Shynin: 9/21/2015 8:15:24 PMYesterday I ate a golden gun shot while my sunbreaker was active and I survived while he proceeded to take a flaming hAmmer to the face. It was a glorious day.
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Didn't know it ever required skill to push buttons on a remote... why didn't I get the memo?! Also...why hasn't butthurt been summoned?
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This is year 2. The new meta has arrived [spoiler]so you better get used to it[/spoiler] [spoiler]or go back to cod[/spoiler]