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Edytowany przez użytkownika Lost Sols: 12/7/2015 2:13:19 AM
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Gjallarhorn is dead. Thorn is dead. Hope people are happy.

I know people are expecting a big review, this isn't it. Honestly it may be a day or two because i haven't scratched the surface of 2.0 yet, but I did want to put up my early impressions and see how my experience has compared to others. So I got home from work tonight and headed to the Tower first. My initial Tower impressions: New vault looks nice. Declaring allegiance was cool... Right up until it gave me a quest to wear all my faction gear lol. Shader collection is cool. Exotic weapon vault. Red Death and Juju... And no MIDA. Exotic armor vault. No Armamentarium. It seems so arbitrary what's ascending and what isn't. Why do some keep playing with their normal exotic setup and others have to start from scratch? Other than that, the Tower is whatever. Gunsmith updates tomorrow I believe and everything else (outside of collections) is mostly the same for now. So I debated trying missions and checking out the north ghost, but opted for PvP instead. First match entered map I've seen once in elimination (Widow's Court), joined the match down by 10000. Thought that sheet wasn't supposed to happen now. Died like 4 times (all Pulse Rifles) and we got mercy ruled. Second match was on the Dungeon. Map was decent saw a couple ARs which was nice, but Pulse Rifles are everywhere now. Realized this match that they gimped all our intelligence, strength and discipline bonuses. Should have realized it I suppose, but it was still a shock how long grenades take to recharge now. Kept trying to throw them on the internal timer I have of when they're usually ready and they'd be half charged. Going to be an adjustment for sure. Next match was on Crossroads- and this is the map I finally saw a Hand Cannon. Went up against Thorn and they might as well have been shooting me with a no impact AR circa 2 days ago. I still don't like that people needed to nerf Thorn to stop it. All these Pulse Rifles you're destroying with have always destroyed people, takes Nerfing weapons to get people to try new things though. The map itself was probably my favorite I played tonight, never really got a grasp on any of the new ones, but Crossroads was at least more open a layout than were used to seeing from Bungie. Tried staying with the group after the match because I thought I heard there will be some reason we'll want to... And it disbanded everyone because it said it was too lopsided. I thought that was kinda stupid because if I'm waiting 26 seconds instead of just backing out and re-queueing what's the point to get disbanded? Next match I played was Bastion(!) I know right! Was interesting seeing it reappear. What was even more interesting was getting Rockets 3 times and getting exactly one rocket kill with Gjally. I've used Gjally in PvP for 6 months and this is not the same weapon. Got Rockets three times the next match on The Drifter and got one rocket kill. In fact at one point I shot two enemies with Gjally, landed the rocket directly between them and [i]didn't kill either one[/i]. Originally wrote Fusion Rifles are dead because Plug One is so inconsistent now, but omg Plan C is returned to its full glory. Not sure how Thorn gets nerfed and Plan C gets buffed, but I'm going to enjoy using it until people get it nerfed. So five matches and I saw one Hand Cannon (Thorn) and it sucked, got a total of 2 rocket kills with what used to be the best PvP RL in the game. Beyond that ttks seemed the same as before, just with different weapons. That's my quick impression, tired as hell. Peace. *Edited out TLW, didn't know it ascended when I originally made the post.

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  • Thorn still snipes :)

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  • I am lol good

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  • Edytowany przez użytkownika Niko1178: 9/10/2015 12:23:15 AM
    I dont have any issues with the weapon patch except field scout being useless for magazine size. Otherwise, everything seems really balanced now. Just my opinions on the post patch meta thus far. I still got kills with thorn and last word without any problems. I think the complaints about hand cannons will mostly be the players that used the broken shit. I usually shot people with thorn until they died. Never did the two and walk away, so for me, its about the same as it was. Last word is still a beast, it just works the way it was supposed to all along. Didn't use my hawkmoon, but saw a few guys wreck shop with theirs. Shotguns will still ruin your day if you're not careful. Range doesnt seem any less to me. Blink is still gay af. Its not as bad, but it still shouldn't be in pvp. Just my opinion. Its a little easier to deal with now because of the visual effects...but still full blown, pillow biter gay. Again, just my opinion. Fusion rifles have always been really good to me. I think I have more fusion rifle kills than my other weapons. They still seem great. I guess my playstyle just fits with them. ARs are awesome now. You need to headshot for quick kills, but thats a good thing. Here is where the field scout begins to sting. Range is much better than i thought it would be. All in all, its just great to have these weapons feel good to use again. LMGs are where the field scout -blam!- up really hurts. All of my jolders hammers and both against all odds have a max 26 rd belt now. That is horrible. Pulse rifles seem fine. Some folks will have to get used to the new stability set, but they kill just as easily as before. Scout rifles seem a little better to me now. Not op at all, but still great weapons. My spear snipers are also down to 3 shots. I have an old one that i rolled with field scout. 6 shots to 3 is ridiculous. Other than that, still ohk with headshots. Seems fine to me. RLs are the same to me as before. My ash factory still kills within 5 ft because of horsehoes. I used ghorn in strikes and it still seems beastly. I'll know for sure when the nightfalls come back. For the most part, i love the weapon rebalance. Its awesome to go into pvp with pretty much whatever i want. I dont have to use thorn or tlw. I'm excited to see where it goes.

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  • Hmm seems my Ghal does fine for pve I guess wepaons have separate stats for the two playstyles.

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  • Haven't played PvP yet but didn't notice much that seemed too bad in pve. Gally still seems to melt things OK, maybe not as fast but still seems OK. Mostly annoyed by the field scout change, I had a sweet shotgun that went from 4 to 7 rounds and now its back to 4. Time to use another perk there I guess... Black hammer change was annoying but not horrible (did they increase reserve size? I didn't seem to be able to get more than 15 reserve rounds, don't remember what it used to be...). Icebreaker change wasn't noticeable really ( and therefore pretty pointless), I still just sat and sniped when soloing the nf as per usual. Limited playtime means limited impressions though, we'll see how things go. Will have to try some PvP sometimes.e too and see how things pan out there.

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  • Bruh I thought I was the only one, I shoulder charged a hunter and barely did damage to him and his blink strike ohk's me, my melee fully charged does like no damage at all

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    • Everyone that called for all of these guns to be nerfed will be back in a few days to whine and complain about AR's and PR's. Bungie could have made the crucible the equivalent of a pillow fight, and these nerf-bunnies would still find something to complain about...

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      • Just tried the last word and it works fine close to mid and its all good

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      • I got on to check out the new stuff. 2 crucible matches later I found myself back on Warframe.

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      • Bungie also removed field scout as a viable perk. It no longer functions on Year 1 gear. Anybody who wanted to see Year 1 live on just got double fûcked.

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        • I am happy if Thorn is truly dead, it needs to be so that people can forget that it was ever such trash, then Bungie can give it back to us, balanced, with new lore.

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        • Pretty much what I expected. Haven't even bothered playing because what you've listed here only scratches the surface of how f'd up they've made this game.

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        • I'm sorry you don't see how thy aren't dead and you just have far less skill than you thought but ok.

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        • I'm still using thorn. There's a noticeable range drop off, but it's still a great means for a scrub like me to get kills. My felwinters still rocked too. I did not like Banshee's sniper(s) or fusion. Impact and range issues, respectively, IMO.

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        • I honestly thought fusion rifles would get buffed. They almost never get used in pvp. Then I read the patch notes, and every single change was to make them weaker... It's a shame really, fusions are the most sci fi weapon in destiny, but bungie seems to hate them.

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        • Ghorn isn't at all dead

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        • To be honest, I think it will just take time to get used to. I agree that pulse rifles dominate now, because all I see is Red Death and The Messenger, yet it is just as they said in the patch, 2-3 burst kills if all rounds hit the head. This may sound crazy but hear me out: People are sometimes good at a game and not riding the equipment. I have a POS Auto Rifle that I spent all day reforging to my liking, and I got wrecked. Why?? Probably because I'm not used to the stats change and I got my shit kicked in because my aim/reaction was off. It all comes down to who gets more headshots faster, usually. I also used that Exotic Gjally and I did fine with it. Even without any of the perks.(Just nabbed it seconds before the update struck) Just -blam!-ing wait it out and stop bitching merely a day after.

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        • Really looking forward to running taikonaut with dragon's breath...

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        • Get gud

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        • If you get good this would not be a problem btw crucible is so easy now that nobody can match me

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        • im happy :3

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        • You will never be satisfied

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          • Bump

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          • When you talked about gjhally, you said tracking sucks now. That's because they downgraded many of the perks, not the gun itself. Well, actually they made Wolfpack rounds do 1/3 of the damage they did before. Anyway, many of the weapon, and possibly, armor perks were severely downgraded (FIRLD SCOUT!). They don't have such a big impact on weapons now. I believe the reason they did this is because now they want us to rely on weapons stats instead of weapon perks. Perks seem to be situational more often now. Weapons with field scout, shotguns with shot package, rangefinder, firefly (Possibly?), full auto for certain weapon types, flared magwell, and a hell of a lot more, made some pretty big effects on weapons we used. The perks I mentioned could be used to solve so many things. Actually, almost anything. Full auto is useful, field scout was perfect for OVE, rangefinder gives shotguns the cheap range, flared magwell gives that great reload speed, etc. I think Luke Smith said this: "We don't want something to solve everything, we want everything to solve one thing." That means they want everything to be used for certain situations right? If this is what they were going for from the start, it could explain why many of CE and HoW weapons were for certain enemies and situations. Like bonus Dreg damage and raid weapons benefitting the raid.

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            Bungie is suffering from dementia because Bungie repeats to take the same mistakes . Or Bungie is the one of the most incompetent company in the 21st century .

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          • TLW sounds like it will handle closer to it's Grimore History. If the hip Fire Precision tweak works as intended. The Fusion Rifle Class seems to have been completely destroyed except for some Exotics that have be buffed to mitigate the weapon class cruelling. Not sure about PI though no specific notes on it. Always felt some pulse rifles should have had a larger magazine. Thorn sound as though it's more a balance change

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