far too many ppl talking about pvp. i totally agree about buffing pve damage and armor. it's absolutely dumb that the primary purpose of my super in pve is to help me go invis longer and run away really quickly. the only time i will ever try killing trash mobs with it is in low level activities like strikes and only because the inevitable death while arcblading is inconsequential.

I've found that Arc Blade is just fine for pretty much all pve activities right up until you hit the most difficult stuff. When I get to, say, Nightfalls, I have to change the whole loadout. It goes from electric ninja to invisible survivor. You can still use your blade to take out mobs of weak enemies, but the main focus becomes turning invisible as much as possible to get out of trouble and revive others.

Most supers don't kill yellow enemies in PvE

Why the hell are you using blade dancer for pve? The dumbest thing to Complain about.

Anyone want to tell me how to complete quest 8 in path of the blade dancer, I manage to kill the boss and 15 enemy. But for some reason I can't seem to kill 3 major enemy. Yes I use blade dance on yellow enemies but still doesn't reward it. I'm stuck, can anyone help?

Bladedancer is a pvp class, it's not going to be good. Like the defender, its only good for one type of PV

Um... Its got its steath which helps a lot for high end PVE stuff. Besides, the whole aspect of PVE is to, well, not get into close range situations... I mean strikers have to pick their fights wisely on what they choose to smash, be is a mob or one large enemy and try to get away, the same stuff applies to the bladedancer in what they try to slash or use razors edge in gaining a shockwave. Really, you don't need to use your super for everything either, sometimes its better to not use the super at all. I mean Defenders are not exactly light generation machines on their own, they need to have perks setup for it, taking away other potnetial uses such as survivalbility or enchanced buffing. Their ward take damage, using that perk (gift of the void) and only that reallis really not as needed when you can just kill stuff to refill much faster. Not to mention gift of light is freaking useless for just about anything, and iron harvest is just RNG luck. Yeah they said Defender is best for PVE, but look, you cannot expect the blade dancer to just p o o p out light as a striker or voidwalker in one attack would or a gunslinger nailing a few at once? Maybe theres a reason why its a class not focused on team support. And PVP not broken. Excuse me, but what has been the most controversal class the past year? Hell, a recent article from planet destiny had luke smith say this: [i]The Balance of Subclasses While Luke isn’t ready to concede the Titan being a lost cause – he claims the Defender is the strongest PvE class, bar none – he and Bungie are well aware of the Titan’s shortcomings in PvP, especially that of the Defender. In fact, 2.0 may contain a balance buff for Razor’s Edge vs. the Ward of Dawn. Without announcing anything specifically, Luke acknowledges Bungie has plans for taking a look at Titan talents, Exotics, and their inherent weaknesses compared to the other subclasses. “The original six kits – you know, we’ve got to look at all of these things in our upcoming balance patches.” The Original Six might be getting a revamp! After seeing the absurd potency of the new subclasses coming with The Taken King, we’d be lying if we said our old subclasses didn’t look a little tame in comparison. Luke fully plans on examining the balance of these at some point down the line, and possibly even re-tooling certain perks to be more viable. This comes with the usual caveat of no real schedule, so don’t hold your breath.[/i] The original six are to be retooled, but the titan in particular, you think there wouldnt be a problem with PVP beyond the weapons balance. So there. Stop thinking blade dancers need to poot out light, its just easier to freaking shoot everything in sight to build it up. You dont need to just poot out light like everything. PVP has issues, hence the weapons that will change tomarrow and the subclass designs. Its being looked at, the original 6 subclasses, titans in particular, are being relooked and prone to be rebalanced (titans again, the most, perhaps they will actually make strikers have talents that actually work unlike something as dumb as unstoppable or make storm fist have an actual effect?)

Hunters? Support class? No they don't mix. No orbs for hunters. Except if that nightstalker shows to be your support class. Otherwise, as far as I'm concerned blade dancers make too many orbs for being a lone wolf. Whose gonna pick those orbs up if your running around alone most of the time. If your looking at generating orbs, you aren't playing the right class.

Just somebody else finding another stupid thing to complain about

I'm ok with everything but the orbs really. Red enemies only ever take one hit for me except the higher tier reds, but that's ok. Clearing large groups of trash with arc blade is the most fun thing for me to do in the game. But that orb generation is just ugh. I'd be more mad about how it deals with majors or ultras except golden gun with the symbiote helm or celestial nighthawk against a single target is probably the best major killer in the game as far as year 1 supers go. Neither nova bomb nor first of havoc is all that great on high tier majors and everything sucks on ultras outside of radiance spam which is higher damage but less burst than a celestial nighthawk GG. Anyway, I'd definitely support a damage boost to arc blade, but what I really want is better orb generation, especially on yellows.

I copied the below from a post I made the other day. [quote]This is how I'd rebalance the Bladedancer's Arc Blade super: Buffs: The Vanish talent has been removed. All Bladedancers may now activate stealth by pressing ADS at any time while Arc Blade is active. Replacing Vanish, Bladedancers now have access to the Crippling Strike talent. Pressing "Fire" while Arc Blade is activated unleashes a devastating attack that deals 3x damage, and increases damage taken by the target. (This is similar to the Sunbreaker's melee talent). The Showstopper talent now blinds enemies it damages. Nerfs: Damage resistance provided by Arc Blade has been slightly reduced. It'll still take more than one shotgun blast though! Pressing the melee button while Arc Blade is active will no longer cause the Bladedancer to lunge forward if there is no target nearby.[/quote] The idea is to make the ability more naturally stealth-oriented, which tends to be its most useful feature in endgame PvE, but is somewhat less useful in PvP where attentive players will still notice you. The Crippling Strike talent and Showstopper buff help the Bladedancer to get in, make the kill, and get out in PvE, but will only very seldomly make any difference in PvP. I know these types of threads tend to attract a disproportionate amount of Internet rage, but they pique my interest better than most of the other stuff one finds here.

That's because it is a PvP super. You should know this by now.

[i]on top of that[/i] they have literally no quality exotic gear tailored for that subclass besides, say, lucky raspberry which is certainly an impractical pick for PvE.

git gud......