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Edytowany przez użytkownika SoloDrengr:
8/27/2015 1:36:30 AM
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You're Not as Good as you think you are! Overall K/D mostly means nothing.
EDIT: This post is more about level of competition differing in each game mode and whether your in a fireteam or not. This post is how playing different levels of competition and different game modes make it impossible to compare overall K/D. Hence it mostly meaning nothing. The part about "not being as good as you think you are" is directed at those who focus on playing lower level competition and probably need to realize their not as good as they think they are.
I've gotten a lot better at PvP over the last month. I'm still working on getting my K/D over 1.0 because I've dug myself a pretty deep hole :) so if you're going to call me a scrub... sure, I'm a scrub. But I'm getting better.
But what I've noticed is that I'm WAYYYY better when I play solo with a bunch of randoms in Control or Clash than any other game modes.
When I play with a full fireteam of clan mates, the competition seems a lot harder. When I play Skirmish or Rumble solo its a struggle to stay above a 1.0 K/D
I believe the competition increases tremendously when you play with other friends in Control or Clash. The algorithm for match making pairs you against better teams IMO.
I think the 3v3 games like Skirmish, Rumble or Trials are more difficult because there are more intense fire fights and your forced to out duel an opponent 1v1. In the 6v6 games you get a lot of crossfire kills and more careless play from your enemy.
So my point is... you're not really as good as you think you are if you're not playing in larger fireteams that pair you against other fireteams or the more competitive 3v3 modes with more Try Hard teams.
When I go 2.0 in Control... I know I'm only as good as my last most competitive match and I keep it real.
So If you're just cleaning it up in Control as a random with other randoms all the time... You would probably have a higher K/D than you would playing the more competitive fireteam based matches.
This leads me to believe that overall K/D in PvP really means nothing, because it's dependent on too many factors. Are you playing solo or with a group? Are you playing in the more competitive game modes like Skirmish, Rumble or Trials? Or are you just picking off scrubs in Control or Clash?
EDIT: I'm constantly evolving the OP to better clarify my point. It's a challenge :)
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2 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Pls Don’t Hurt Me: 8/28/2015 2:16:48 AMActually it really does mean something... "Every time Johnny spawned in, he struggled to get even one kill, often times dying before achieving enemy mortality." K/d .1-.9 "Johnny will usually kill at least one person every time he spawns in. He has guns that work well with the map and basic rules of engagement mastered." K/d. 1.1-1.5 "Johnny has consistently outgunned multiple people per life, and is perfectly capable of going on kill streaks multiple times per game. Great map, gun, and rules of engagement." K/d. 1.6-2.0 "It's all but guaranteed that johnny will get at least 2 kills every time he spawns in. Amazing gun skill, reaction time, map knowledge, and rules of engagement." K/d. 2.1+ [spoiler] rules of engagement: how to tell when a fight is worth engaging in, and how to go about achieving victory in engagements. Basically strategy[/spoiler]
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I dunno. It strongly depends on my play style for that game too. Can I trust my team to sacrifice for the zones? Usually I can't, so I get a lower K/D but we win. If I only kill and say -blam!- the zones, I get a way better K/D Lately I've been playing with at least 2 buddies so it's been fun as hell and getting around 3-5 K/D a game
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I always play solo and I find rumble a cakewalk. Control/clash is a right mess and my k/d is lower on that playlist
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3 OdpowiedziI stopped giving a crap about my KD after my friend and I decided to start playing destiny drunk. You die, you pass the controller and drink for 3 seconds.
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I don't think I'm good anyways -_-
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The only time I see KD being relevant is trials tbh.
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I can play a match in which I carry my team in a control match without ever touching a control point. I'll have generated 3000 more points than the closest team mate. I'll have pushed the enemy off a control point more times than can count. Yet everytime my teammates will get cut down and the enemy will rally and overwhelm me without teammate support. And I'll still come out with "On the Bright side" very often, and still maintain a high k/d while every teammate was an idiot and no one got over a .6 So yea, k/d matters
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Buddy ive gone 25 and 0. I believe 2 nights ago i had three games in a row where it was like 32 and 4. But then ive had my bad games too. I dont count IB to much because there are so many groups of friends and im with randoms trying to push for points and ending up being the only guy actually getting control points. What im saying is KD speaks volumes when it comes to crucible. Its like someone said presence of mind is what it boils down too.
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10 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika ZEN: 8/27/2015 3:39:09 PMK/D = presence of mind and talent. Can you make good decisions and challenge when you have the advantage-run when you don't? Do you know not to pile identical corpses onto a flag when its well defended and resist the idea that playing the objective no matter the cost will make you a winner? Are you quick to aquire target and utilize your weapon? Do you use the right weapon for the map? All these things can loosely be represented with how many kills you get per life on average. 0.5 - 1.0 = probably lives to get the 1 kill, throwing every nade and emptying entire magazines and charging at 4 people on a flag or in a room just to get one of them. Most likely refers to themselves as "not a pvp guy" 1.0 - 1.5 = has good days and bad days. rushes less often, thinks control is really hard, probably really likes shotguns. Prefers clash 1.5 - 2.0 = moderately sweaty, uses best primaries availiable, has proper loadouts for most maps, splits time between sniping and shotguns, better in rumble and clash than in control. Prefers skirmish. Still hungry for them mlg multi kills sometimes, fails most of them. 2.0+ = getting pretty sweaty, good with most guns, has max intellect, discipline armor attributes. Knows some callouts and various unwritten rules about "sweaties" or higher tier 3v3 matches- I,E waving heavies to see if the other team will use them or not, etc. Consistently top of the board no matter the playlist. Anything notability higher than that and you're in twitch streamer territory. These people usually have no patience for you and refuse to ever use anything other than the by-the-numbers highest tier armor, weapons and combos. Most of the time- very douchy but also very talented and tactically smart... Most of the time~ (shes my nerd is an idiot who thinks zerg rushing is a religion.)
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I normally at solo and my kd is around 1.7. I don't use cheap guns (I hip fire last word I never ADS). On ps4 I'm sure it's much higher.
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Your KD is 0.9 while mine is at 1.9, I guess we cant tell whos the better PvP player between us?
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I don't think I'm that good :)
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I consistently get a K/D of 1.5 in rumble. But like you, I dug myself a pretty deep hole. K/D doesn't matter, the only people who care about it are Thorn/blink shotgun elitists.
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So you made this post to tell me I suck.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Cured: 8/27/2015 8:37:59 PMReality is, if you go into matchmaking with a full team in control/clash a lot of the time you don't get paired with another full team. So, instead of it being two fireteams facing off you're playing against a group of randoms. This would work if it found opponents based on fireteam size and skill.
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Stopped reading at Mostly.
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1 OdpowiedźAgreed, unless you've toppled the vault and shoved crotas sword up his ass so many times its a second nature, then you're something in this game. Otherwise, you're just another squeeking crucibaby
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I pay attention to my rolling kd and my individual kds on each character. Cause overall kd doesn't reflect how good you are in my opinion. I hold rather nice kds on my hunter. But my overall is ruined from learning to play the game on my lock. My titans kd is nice too . But no matter what my kds are it won't unlock my overall from 1.64. Because of the shear amount of kills I have. It would take 7000+ kills with less then 1000 deaths to change my overall kd. I like to look at the destiny tracker skill numbers and such to determine another person's skill level. Also I look at the medals they average. I play with a lot of good player who have never gotten a mark of the unbroken but yet average better kds then me. But I have 4 to five marks on each character. It's all in play style. My kds are high because I run when out gunned. I never rush ever. I snipe before I primary. I steal kills even if I know it's my teammates kill he did all the work. I never ever try to clutch a primary fight that I know I'm going to lose. But my average kills per game is like 16-18 with a 1.8kd. My friend kook is just as good as me but averages 22-25 a game with a 1.4-1.5 or lower. So who's better ? Me or him ? The sniper or the rusher ?
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been using a hunter from the beginning. KD: .87 (I get laughed at a lot) Tuesday I took my level 26 Titan into Iron Banner. KD: .94 :O/
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3 OdpowiedziHere's my thoughts on k -d rating. 1. No lag = higher kd rating so if there's lag kd. Becomes invalid 2. Using of op weapons. Or the meta doesn't equal skill. Just higher kd. Based on weapon time to kill. Kd invalid 3. Teams . Communication will result in higher kd. Teams of six may have exceptionally good players in last. Do to point 2. Players on they're team. Kd. Invalid I've been lag switched . Team fired by thorns. Loaded into a banner match 1 vs 6. Btw wtf bungie. If you think kd. Is the measure of a good player . Then your iq. Is the same as your kd.
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As a solo player, I do pretty good all around.
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Overall k/d can be misleading as some people who are decent now may have suffered through a long period of sub .4 play as they have never played fps before this game. Also, some people like to -blam!- around with guns they know are bad for the lulz or play matches with friends using only melee/nades.
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1 OdpowiedźYou mean I'm NOT even a mediocre piece of shit?! Well, that's depressing.
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3 OdpowiedziI don't understand why people try to turn statistics into something they're not. People that use K/D as an indicator of skill are just as as wrong as the people that say it means to nothing. The stat is what it is- a measure of your ability to generate kills without giving up deaths. That's it
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K/d definitely means something bro. It's not everything but it's an indicator. Someone who has over a 2.0 can't get that on accident. Especially since it's based on a large sample.
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3 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika WaveRit: 8/27/2015 2:03:36 AMI believe the match making depends on some sort of combat ratings. When you are playing solo, you match up with people who are as skilled. When you team up with the others, the system averages the combat rating. That explains why when some people do way worst when they team up, else do way better. Those are by my experience with different teammates. When I team up with people who are not as skilled, my k/d goes up, vice versa.
