[b]EDIT #4[/b] [i]In less than 24 hours this board, where there's a lot of people expressing fear their voices wouldn't be heard in different and often times colorful ways, has garnered [b]642 comments[/b] the last time I checked just a few moments ago. It is the fastest growing post on Bungie.net that's not authored by Bungie itself. Furthermore, it has had [b]more activity in less than 24 hours than some official posts made by Bungie itself have gotten even though they've been up several months.[/i][/b]
OUR VOICE IS BEING HEARD I PROMISE YOU THAT FELLOW GUARDIANS.
KEEP IT GOING. BUMP IT. TWEET IT. LINK TO IT IN YOUR CLAN FORUMS.
ROCK THE VOICE!
[b]EDIT #3[/b] Everyone who is deriding this post should go on the record saying how they would have handled it.
[b]I again ask you the question:[/b]
If you were in that conference room and two plans were laid out [b]how would you have voted?[/b]
[b]Plan A: Simply offer more compelling choices[/b]. If some goofball wants to use a year 5 level Doctor Nope (much at his own detriment in finding a willing raid or trials party), why shouldn't he be able to do so? This plan will invariably lead to much more diverse builds and gun usage.
[b]Plan B: We can't trust them.[/b] Even if we offer more compelling choices, they may be too dumb to realize it and keep using that [b]damned Found Verdict we designed 4 years ago[/b]. Let's just effectively take all the old guns from them, or even better: We'll let them keep 'Em but [b]they'll be useless outside of patrol.[/b] Every time they open the vault, they'll have that bittersweet reminder of [b]HOW WE MADE THE DECISION FOR THEM[/b]
[b]EDIT #2[/b] [i][b]Will you go on the record saying of the two archetypical solutions to gear stagnation:..[/b][/i]
1. Simply offer more compelling choices. (You'll have better guns you use much more than your old favorite hand cannon, but you could still use Fatebringer if you wanted to. [b][i]You make the decision for yourself).[/i][/b]
2. Draconian Gunicide. (Fatebringer is dead, and you'll never be able to use it with any degree of efficiency in any meaningful endgame content. [b][i]Bungie makes the decision FOR YOU)[/i][/b]
[b][i]That you actually prefer for the decision to be made for you? [/i][/b]
[b]EDIT #1 [/b]
[i]I didn't say I would no longer play the game. I will cancel my preorder in protest but in all likelihood I will ultimately buy The Taken King prior to launch[/i].
[i]I made this post as a protest because I believe this is a mistake. When the House of Wolves came out, Bungie said they would never invalidate the work Guardians did the way[b] they invalidated the work of Vault of Glass raiders when the Dark Below came out and suddenly there was better gear for sale in the tower[/b]. Back then, the official line was that they learned from that and [b]acknowledged it was a mistake to invalidate our work and disrespect our time[/b] and efforts.
[b]How is it that just 4 months later it's no longer a mistake?[/b]
I feel like this is [b]doubling down on a weapon Gunicide policy that DIDN'T WORK THE FIRST TIME[/b] and required the creation of Etheric light to fix the mess it made.
How is it that an even [b]more egregious even more wholesale Gunicide is now en vogue once again?[/b][/i]
[b][u]ORIGINAL POST[/u][/b]
I've been a huge Bungie and Destiny fan boy since day one. I've spent hours enjoying the game, the lore and exploring the mysteries. If you look at my past posts you'll see I've been very active in the community and have tried to pass along any mysteries I uncover.
However, all of these charges purported to be in the Taken King have just gone too far.
[b]If you feel like I do, that making 90% of our arsenal obsolete is a mistake...[/b]
[b]THEN...[/b]
Please leave your declaration of protest re: [b]the decision to make our existing arsenal obsolete, devaluing the in-game rewards of our year one experience and disrespecting the time we spent as one of the Year One Guardians who were amongst the first pilgrims in the world of Destiny.[/b]
Stand up for your guardian. Stand up for all the work you did. [b]Stand up for your GALLY.[/b] Stand up for your Fang of Ir Yut. [b]Stand up for your Fatebringer.[/b]
[b][i]WE, THE FOLLOWING GUARDIANS DECLARE OUR PROTEST[/i][/b] of the decision to render our existing arsenal obsolete; the decision to devalue the in-game rewards of our year one experience and the decision to disrespect the time we spent as one of the Year One Guardians who were amongst the first pilgrims in the world of Destiny:
Signed,
Superman Corps and the following Guardians who make it clear they sign as well...
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I don't have a problem with legendaries being gone. My problem is that bungie have said "oh you can take some exotics up to year 2, but only ones we decide you can." Why should they get to decide which exotics i like and want to use? And no this isn't just about the gally, its as much about the MIDA or the red death or any other exotic.
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2 OdpowiedziWe won before. This time im afraid this is a war we wont win. They simply dont want us to play the way we wanna play and have fun the way we wannna. Wow looking back this looks like i really like my Ws lol. But they dont care about what we want its all about what they want. People have said its not bungies fault its activisons but i genuinely dont think thats true especially now with black ops coming out and the pricing being cheaper than destiny so they cant even be blamed for overpricing. I know thats gone a little off topic just had to throw that bit in
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1 OdpowiedźHere's my voice. -blam!- off and stop whining to get what you want.
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I'm happy that they're being left behind etheric light was the Black Plague along with weapon reforging.
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5 OdpowiedziWell I don't have any of the guns people are always going on about. Fatebringer, Vex Mythoclast, Necrochasm, what are those? And I bought pretty much all of my exotics and most of my legendaries. So I'm not miffed over any of this. I'm more annoyed that TTK won't play on the 360. Not sure I want to buy a new console so I'll probably just sell it and not have a console at all.
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Trials armor R.I.P.
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2 OdpowiedziI DO LIKE NEW STUFF, BUT THESE "DIFFERENT" EXOTICS REQUIRED FOR THE YEAR1 PLAYERS WHO ALREADY HAD TO REGRIND FOR EVERY SINGLE "YEAR2 VERSION" OVER AND OVER AGAIN, ALSO WE HAVE TO RELEVEL AND INFUSE THEM FOR MAX OUT, YEAR1 PLAYERS JUST WASTED THEIR TIMES FOR THE "VIP REWARDS"? WHAT WE HAVE IS JUST EXPERIENCES AND LEVELS MORE THAN YEAR2 PLAYERS.
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Op is overreacting
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You mad?
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4 OdpowiedziSigned. I'm all for new weapons, but why can't my favorites go with me to oryx?
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Hehe, get ready for the grind a 3rd time boys!
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2 OdpowiedziDon't care any more. The best guns and gear will be found/bought and utilized. Old stuff is just old.
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When the crybabies ask for a nerf they really got it. Everything will be gone. Everyone should use the current meta like crazy to collect as much salt as possible in case it's needed to upgrade weapons in year 2.
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1 OdpowiedźBasically this decision stopped me pre-ordering TTK. Now, I'll just wait and see what happens before I buy TTK. Definitely not going into this one blind. I like playing destiny, but if I don't like what they do, I won't be sinking any more money into it.
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I agree with you!
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I'm just angry that my vision of confluence and my bones of eao won't be upgradable
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6 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika IrishVodkaBob: 8/21/2015 2:46:09 PMGod! You don't see game 1 CODers complaining that they can't use the same guns in game 50! Complaining like this makes you worse than those fanboys. [spoiler] ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [/spoiler]
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6 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika ScooterSMackey: 8/21/2015 2:56:40 PMYou're a pussy if you care that year 1 weapons are leaving
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Oh, and how many of the same type of cry baby forum topics do you people intend on making? It's getting quite old folks.
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I don't really care. They are doing it because they don't want you to use the same guns and armor for 10 years. They might have new guns that are way better than fatebringer or gally. I don't get why everyone is so mad about it
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Wow wtf.legendaries now we can't make old exotics upgraded WTF
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9 OdpowiedziI do like new guns... but, i should not lose all my old ones.
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10 OdpowiedziI can't wait to come check these boards out come December when this game is dead in the water. Bungie did it to themselves, you don't go around making what everyone spent hundreds of hours obtaining and make it obsolete just to force your new guns on them so they'll use those instead. People (myself included) stuck around through alot of crap with TDB then HoW hoping bungie would finally give us the game we were waiting for, then this crap with TTK I'm pretty sure from what I've seen today on here was the last straw. Like I said I'll be here in December or sooner to rub it in all the faces of the sheep that blindly follow this garbage company and this game. All these desticles claiming it's a MMO gtfo here it's no where close. It's a fps/rpg so quit comparing it to warcraft.
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They should be building on the foundation they started instead of building something new and that doesn't work with existing content.
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Signed hard. Legendaries agent as big a concern to me as exotics though, they were supposed to be able to stay with us through our journey.