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Edytowany przez użytkownika pyrodactyl1991:
8/20/2015 11:00:11 PM
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These exotics are not coming forward
Gjallahorn (confirmed in the weekly update)
Ice breaker
Thorn
Hard light
Universal remote
Super good advice
Vex
Necrochasm
Those will get a new, viable lvl 40 version:
Monte Carlo
Hawkmoon
4th horseman
Invective
Red death
Suros regime
truth
Thunderlord
TLW
Bad juju
The other ones are uncertain. How do I know this? Y2 versions only show if you have the Y1 version already. On stream (http://www.twitch.tv/bungie/v/11727800) Deej had Y1 Gjallahorn and Ice breaker but it didn't show a Y2 version.
In the teaser (above) the guy didn't have red death so it didn't show a Y2 version even though there was one on stream with deej because deej has Y1 red death (proving my point).
The teaser guy also had Y1 hard light, vex, necrochasm, thorn, etc but no Y2 version appeared.
Note that even unfinished y2 versions appeared in that teaser (old icon for bad juju) leading me to believe that there would be a vex or a gjallahorn y2 in there if it was planned for September 15.
Edit: they might add Y2 version for these guns later but for now they don't seem to be in there
Edit2: For those arguing Y1 exotics will be upgradable to Y2 stats through upgrade nodes or whatever: no they won't. Deej was wearing HoW legendary gear and it had 190 defense. HoW gear starts at the same armor level as exotics (160 after TTK) but when it's ascended it hits the same max stats as exotics too. So Y1 exotics will go from 160 to 190 with those upgrade nodes. A huge gap between that and 280 of Y2 exotics
Edit3: Y1 stuff can only be infused with Y1 stuff. They said that on stream. That way you can't have Y1 weapons go higher than 190
Edit4: weekly update largely confirmed my analysis
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1 OdpowiedźNecrochasm is definitely coming through, same with hard light. All exotic bounty weapons should be coming through as well.
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2 OdpowiedziI'm sure that all exotics will be able to be ascended to the new damage cap. It most likely means that only these guns have a new year 2 theme and rework. Suros needed it to appease people who wanted to switch between focused fire and another perk.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika NicheWhiz: 8/20/2015 1:09:15 PMYes but remember year 2 exotic already comes with max attack which is 280 while year 1 starts with min attack which is 180 so we take the year 1 exotic 180 and level up like we did in vanilla for reaching max attack which is 280 so year 2 comes with max attack and perks unlocked with few new ones that's all....... how am I sure that year 1 exotic was at min attack? Look at the stream when deej highlighted the year 1 truth it was 180 and it didn't even leveled up a bit and same with surfs regime so ghorn can reach max attack like truth but won't have additional perks
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Edytowany przez użytkownika VADORSLAYER: 8/20/2015 5:54:04 AMNot true. Necro and hard light is gettin a buff
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That was a test platform, if you check the corresponding slots in year 2 primary compared to year 2, you can see where necrochasm and hardlight will be, there are differences after suros, a couple less weapons but it's not conclusive enough to say outright that Necrochasm and Hardlight are being omitted. Yes they did say that some exotics were already going to be included from launch but that the others would follow, they didn't specify which ones. Also note year 1 necro has the highest attack at 172 compared to 160 for everything else.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika charlie9911: 8/20/2015 9:25:56 AMi think, you need the upgraded version from Gjallarhorn, for example, to see it in the blueprints... Version 1 don´t be enough...
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They made it a point in the new patch note to state that in year two Hardlight will be a worthy exotic.
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1 OdpowiedźWhat I just noticed was that Light Beyond Nemesis (year 1) had defense upgrade nodes. This will almost certainly result in the fully upgraded version being at 280. After that I don't know.
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This isn't true I'll have to watch again to verify others. But I know for a FACT that necrochasm had a y2 version.
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I heard that all exotics are getting a new perk grid. And the old exotics obtain max damage when TTK unlocks. The year one models don't have the signature perk unlocked right away tho.
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For the Exotics that don't have a Year 2 Version, it's probably for the better.
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1 OdpowiedźI will loose all faith in the game if the MIDA does not get upgraded....
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4 OdpowiedziAre there any details on whether or not the exotics that are not getting a Year 2 upgrade will still be [b]obtainable[/b] after TTK launches??
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1 Odpowiedźanyone else notice in the stream that eris morn was moved to the bottom of the two sets of stairs in the stream or was that just me?
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5 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Rest Assured: 8/20/2015 3:47:02 AMI wonder what Truth's new perk will be?
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3 OdpowiedziI assumed it as some weapons are getting a new version in year two, while all year one exotics can be upgraded and just have their year one perks. I hope it's like that. :)
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It might be their test build just to show a few exotics? But they did actually say they MIGHT bring more Y2 versions. Im disapointed with this you know? I want to use the improved nechrocasm? My vex? Man im gunna miss that thing if its not carried over. I really hope ALL are carried over. I guess well have to wait to see if they are.
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I was hoping we'd upgrade them with that infusion system, maybe using other exotic weapons instead. Making them not upgradable at all seems a bit weird... I hope that isn't the case :/
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1 OdpowiedźI'm glad bad juju is being carried forward. I love it on my voidwalker
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Why would the guns like the gally and ice breaker get year 2 versions? Year 2 versions have new skills and new looks along with the good original skill already aquired. Why would guns like the ice breaker and gally need new skill tress? They wouldn't that's why they don't have year 2 versions, but not having a year 2 version doesn't mean it can't be ascended to level 40 attack values. All exotics can be ascended to new attack and def values. The only weapons and armor with year 2 version are the ones they gave new skills to.
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5 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Aurion77: 8/19/2015 11:54:54 PMOP is incorrect. The damage values will upgrade. The weapons listed in the second column will have new perks added, but the damage of the first column will be comparable to the second. A simple application of logic would tell you this. Nobody would waste time balancing Ice Breaker, Gjallarhorn, Necrochasm, or Hard Light if they're going to also become irrelevant the very same day.
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14 OdpowiedziHey smart ass I got some information for ya. They said ALL year one exotics will be able to be upgraded to the new damage cap when The Taken King drops so shut your ass up.
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The vex and necrochasm make sense to me, since they are raid rewards.
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Uh... They said loved weapons... The Vex is a very much loved weapon.
