[quote]"Having played with a few Dames on LFG and asking them about their clan so I could have an informed opinion I found out what the Dames of Destiny are all about. "[/quote] And...? It almost sounded like you were going somewhere with that. [quote]"It takes no longer than 10 mins of scrolling this forum to see that women by a portion of this community are regularly belittled and receive a substantial amount of abuse."[/quote] I found none of these posts. I see posts talking about the whole incident with the Dames's stream. But I don't see posts belittling women in that context, let alone any other context. I can't even find any evidence for what was said to and about the Dames during the stream. Can you link me to any of these posts? [quote]"If this community was filled with racist remarks would you be surprised to see clans appear that were free from racism? I have seen several clans created which are under 16's because they feel safer playing with their age group than a more mature player is this wrong? My clan is UK based only because logistically it is easier to play with UK based players. Are you feeling aggrieved by this? I also play with fellow veterans in veteran only clans because they provide a relaxed environment where members can speak freely knowing other members have shared the same experiences. Is that unacceptable as well?"[/quote] No, but I haven't heard one person on this forum complain that there is a group for women that want to play with other women, nor do they complain that there are groups that generally include only a certain kind of person. I see a lot of petitions to not nerf blackhammer, but no petitions to dismantle the Dames's group, for example, or anyone elses for that matter. Have you seen any such petitions? Or maybe you've seen posts that expressed a similar sentiment? Feel free to link them for me, because I haven't seen any of them. [quote]"Personally i'm disgusted by the comments i've read and i'm well aware it's a small minority who were involved." [/quote] Again, please share them. I'd like for you and I to be on the same page. [quote]"This community has done some great things when we've come together. Standing up against bigotry should be one."[/quote] Aren't we doing this already? Again, show me someone who isn't decrying the comments that were made on the stream, or the threats that were sent to the Dames. Rather, show me someone who is supporting sexism on this forum, and supports the threats that were made against the Dames. Serious threats are already against the law, and I'm sure by now they have been reported to the police, because those kinds of threats are a crime. This community is already policing itself just fine, so what stance have we yet to make? [quote]"Before I get the usual 'white knight' and 'wannabe hero' comments, I wouldn't class myself as either. Having served in both Afghanistan and Iraq however, I believe in standing up against bigotry even in the face of adversity."[/quote] People are not going to use the term "white knight" as a pejorative against you because you stand against bigotry. They will use it because you are carrying the burdens of other people, burdens that are not yours, and fighting other people's battles. And in the process you are dragging gender politics into a community that only wants to play video games.

If text cuts very deep into someone to the point that they fall apart or even contemplate suicide, or words do the same, we need to take a look at ourselves. Most of humanity needs to grow a backbone and thicker skin.

Dear god it is so thirsty in here im getting thirsty

These post are funny just saying ever hear of a mute and block option its new its on destiny its great try it free for 30 days no subscription needed

That comment wasn't even directed at the Dames. Why are they mad about that?

As a dame myself, thank you :) I was not part of the bungie bounty but with the clan tag on my name I have gotten some hate mail myself recently. Not everyone on Destiny is a horrible person or sexist but there's those select few who make it uncomfortable for me once they find out I'm a female gamer. I've learned not to let it get to me at this point, but the fact that it happens still baffles me. =/

I'll agree you should be able to game free from abuse.. So Dames of Destiny were formed to provide a safe friendly environment for female players.. Free from abuse from male players!!! But then they decided to except Bungies offer to play live on a feed where ppl can comment!! WHAT DID THEY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!? It's almost as though they accepted the offer to prove what they say they go through !!!

I have frequently been on destiny and this app since launch and I have never seen or heard a sexist remark. I have never seen anything at all that belittles women or would cause them any fear to play this game in the least. I don't know where the fuk your getting any of that.

Dude byf and all the other you tubers are pussys who can't take a joke whatsoever. Deej deserved this he's a horrible community manager. I don't understand how byf thought wish said dames suck my balls and no deej suck my balls. He's obviously doing it for views and trying to throw the competition out of the way.

This whole thing just proves that whole bunch, deej, byff, Datto and the other bid destiny suckers are up each other's asses. Most their heads of gotten way to big.

I bet if we took a poll on the immaturity in the game and community, I say top 75 percent would be people 26 and younger, the human brain does not fully mature till around that age, and that's a scientific fact.

....how about not making an girl only clan then? Sorry, but if you want fairness, play with some fairness then

since the content is stale and new dlc is deparately needed at this point , deej , byf , wishmeluck plotted a master plan to spice up the destiny universe ,of course to make a good story we need a hero/white knight and a villian/martyr and a victim , the roles were quickly decided between wish deej and the gang , but then suddnly deej realized , what if he he's not a good enough internet violence victim because you know all the controversy about deej controlling wht xur sells and weekly updates so he got this brillinat idea "guys lets use the dames from destiny to create a even bigger scandal to provide thrill to the new action/content thirsty audience " , the dames not knowing what awaits them blindly followed the sudden bungie bounty invite to get some more internet fame just to be abused by the dedicated villian in this story , well actually the dames were just bystanders in the nasty internet assault , but thats where our white knight hero comes on the scene twisting words and punishing our anti-hero martyr by taking away his stream job and now he has to suffer hunger and pain , once again the good guys in destiny saved the day from evil internet sexists, well played Deej and the two other guys , it was video game oscar worthy!

I've played dice beta and still haven't met a girl destiny gamer