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7/12/2015 7:38:29 AM
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WTF Handcannons
All I see now is Thorn, Hawkmoon and The Last Word. It's literally the only 3 actual guns that kill me anymore. They're so over powered and noobish. They need to seriously lower the damage output on them asap. It's ridiculous. There's no reason why I should get hit by 2 bullets from across the map and die. Thorn is the worst because of the D.O.T. ...
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4 OdpowiedziI've been informed that I'm needed here
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1 OdpowiedźThe DoT should go away if the user is killed
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4 OdpowiedziIts the auto aim. I used to use TLW all the time. I did so well in pvp. Then i started using leg. Handcannons and its so hard to even hit ur target. I mean thorn is crazy hard to get, and TLW IS exotic, but that auto aim crap is stupid
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6 OdpowiedziHawkmoon needs a nerf? How, it's RNG based kills for this weapon. You should know since you have it. It's recoil pattern is kinda hard to get use to, and it's the only balanced exotic had cannon in the game. I agree with a minor nerf to thorn since it will eventually happen. But not the last word. Imo at least.
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5 OdpowiedziThe Thorn is the only "noob" gun if you want to call it that. PVP NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT but tlw and hawkmoon require alot more skill to get alot of kills with.
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25 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Sergeant: 7/13/2015 3:31:54 AMHawkmoon is a legendary with three lucky rounds. Think about that for a second... I have a fulcrum that has the same stats as hawkmoon with luck in the chamber and final round it also only has 8 in the magazine. Hawkmoon takes skill to use, so don't go around all whilly nilly calling a person a noob for using it. I have a tough enough time dealing with thorn, the last word and blink shotguners in crucible while using hawkmoon. You want to call somebody a noob? Call the people who shoot out thier rounds to get final round in a sniper rifle. [spoiler]Go to rumble and only use hawkmoon against a blinking hunter thats using the last word and a shotgun. After the match ends tell me how op hawkmoon is.[/spoiler]
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If a balance must happen all that needs reduction is the range. It should be a mid to close weapon. Scouts should be where the action is at a distance. But don't mess with the dot on Thorn, that's what makes it exotic and cool. We need more exotics with cool creative perks like that, not less.
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Just because you die by those guns all the time does not make them noobish. However, I understand the rage as I get smashed by Hawkmoon and TLW all the time. I really don't care though. I play PVP for fun from to time. I'm mediocre at it so I don't take it to heart.
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10 OdpowiedziThorn and last word have their weaknesses, learn to exploit them. Thorn is only as useful as its user's precision. Make yourself hard to hit by moving erratically. Choose corners to fight around and duck behind when the green happens. Thorn is annoying but it announces itself and then you know exactly what the enemy has. The last word has high DPS but a tiny magazine with a long reload. Use unpredictable movement and weapons with knock back perks to burn their ammo. Crush them while they reload. Secondary weapons beat either weapon in most cases, so long as you properly control where the fight occurs. Fusion rifles don't see much use anymore, but they fry handcannons at the weapon's optimal range. In short, rather than pushing for modifications, think of the prevalence of these weapons as enemy Intel and exploit it.
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Bro if thats whats happening to you you probably shouldnt play crucible anymore and you suck
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2 OdpowiedziDon't forget word of crota when it is 365 it is epic I got mine mix :)
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Edytowany przez użytkownika SpacemanSpff434: 7/14/2015 7:11:41 PMThis is the result of nerfing auto rifles and fusion rifles.
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Will Bungie respond to your thread? https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/138409684 [spoiler]No, they won't.[/spoiler]
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41 OdpowiedziThe thing is the hand cannons aren't overpowered its that everything else is weak.
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Red Death...
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So what you're saying is; people with no skill is killing you? lmao. Damn; you must really suck then.
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Come on over, I'll kill you with hard light, that's a good change right?
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2 Odpowiedzi90% of people using these guns have no skill. So they can usually be countered. However a thorn or tlw in a skilled players hand is scary. Most tlw noobs will just hold down the trigger and spray the whole mag. So just wait a second for them to reload and boom. Also range and strafing are your friends when fighting a tlw. Thorn is a little different. But it has the same fire rate as tlw so often noobs will just spam the trigger and miss many of their shots. Again strafing is your friends here. But also timing your shots and knowing how much damager the burn will do.
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Maxed out bad juju with send it perk on with some distance. You're welcome.
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Wah wah wah wah \_/
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1 OdpowiedźThorn n TLW is the problem.
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5 OdpowiedziDude Thorn takes skill
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Bro I suck at crucible and I have a full upgraded hawkmoon. I literally shot someone in the head once and the body twice, then got one shot by his un-upgraded hawkmoon like WTF
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3 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika cuzzybubba1: 7/13/2015 12:35:45 AMI used Thorn since it was its former self but about 2 months ago switched to PR's. There are other great Scouts and Pulse out there but Bungie has created in Thorn and TLW just two really easy to use safe crutches. Now, that being said I have no issues with anyone using them as I can crush users with them and sometimes get crushed by them so at the end of the day you win some you lose some. The same people crying over Thorn/TLW are the same that Got autos turned to garbage. I do think they need to fix the range on both and ADS on TLW but other than that it is what it is.
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Weapon balancing is coming before TTK drops
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9 OdpowiedziGet an xbox, you will come across far more Thorn and Last Word... Until September anyway..
