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Edytowany przez użytkownika Lost Sols:
12/7/2015 2:50:55 AM
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Decontructing Destiny: The Unmaking of a Dream
Greeting fellow Guardians, I brought a few gifts from the Golden Age...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfhrONAp-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clRpcIHpmoY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyQK6kUdWQ
This Destiny is not the Destiny that Joe Staten and Marty envisioned.
What has become crystal clear to me these last few days is that the biggest issue with the pricing structure for TTK is that the $60 and $80 TTK bundles are what Destiny (or this version of) should have been from the start.
Whether the demise of the original Destiny lies in the hands of Bungie, Activision or both, there can be no dispute that as fun as the gameplay is and as much as we enjoy this world, [b]we were sold an unfinished game.[/b] Bungie can deny it all they want and they can make up all the stories they want of it all being part of their 10 year plan.
We went into Destiny with eyes wide open expecting a story, universe and adventure like nothing we'd experienced before. What they cannot rationalize away is that we dropped into that world and found silence, invisible ceilings, death zones, disjointed and shifting economies, mixed messages and ideals on weapon balance and leveling, infrastructures like vault space that could not hold up to actual game world demands and closed off areas that revealed we were only playing a portion of that existing world.
Over the last year we have paid for a beta that we've bug and stress tested. What is worse is that at each step along the way, we have had content restricted if we weren't willing to pony up for the next "expansion". The locking out of content amounted to virtual extortion. The complete lack of any in game means to access either raid or 90% of HoW endgame content, showed the utter contempt that Bungie feel for this community.
Now they want us to [i]repurchase all the content we already own[/i] to enjoy the "full TTK experience" and even after all the backlash from the Luke Smith interview, we're told that
[quote]The Collector's Edition is mostly sold out, so the people who found that stuff valuable jumped at the chance. You'll likely see it sold on eBay for much more than what we're asking. But that's not the point. Right?[/quote]
I appreciate all the support this community have shown each other since the launch of the game. I have been both humbled and amazed by so many of you and I am so thankful for the chance to have gotten to know some of you a bit through these causes we've fought together for, but I'm sure most of you feel the same... at some point I just want to enjoy playing Destiny again.
Bungie, this game is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be an escape from the reality of the ups and downs of everyday life. Except it's starting to not be fun anymore and it's time for you to make a decision. What is your motivation going forward?
Do you want to drip feed content and milk us for everything you can in the hopes that the content is addicting enough to keep us around? Or do you want to take the chance to try to create something truly great and build a living, breathing, social experience that we can all step into and lose ourselves in together?
The Destiny that was is not, but the Destiny that can be still is.
So who are you Bungie? The visionaries that dreamed up the worlds of Halo, who would play alongside us with your flaming skulls and who made us feel so much a part of that world? Or are you the condescending corporate lap dogs you've shown the last two months?
We don't want to fight, we don't want to be adversaries and I say with real sadness that many of us just aren't going to stick around to find out if you don't right this ship and show us that you give a sh*t.
You keep saying you’re listening, well it's time you start taking part in the discussion. We'll all see what you have to say in the weekly update tomorrow and I hope it's sincere, but words are cheap and we've seen your eyes and teeth.
----Edit----
It seems that while I was posting this, we have received part 1 of the weekly update. The answer to our anger and the olive branch offered as a sign that they are really, truly listening to us now...
[b]They've figured out a way to introduce microtransactions into the game.[/b]
You were right about one thing at least, Bungie. Actions do speak louder than words.
----Edit 2-----
DeeJ says "We'll talk next week". Can somebody please explain to DeeJ how conversations work?
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If the game is made better, what will you write elaborate posts about? It will never be the game you "want" because the real game is right here, isn't it?
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Sols I didn't even see it was you until just now, great post. I like the olive branch bit. Good words for what I'm sure are shared thoughts about the game.
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Great post
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/147005994/0/0
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WAIT WHAT? WHAT MICROTRANSACTIONS? PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 20$ CONTENT THING. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE UPDATE YET ON MY PHONE. OH LORD IM GONNA BE PISSED.
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2 Odpowiedzi*Deconstructing
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1 OdpowiedźWhat did Deej say? Great post by the way!
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[quote]Greeting fellow Guardians, I brought a few gifts from the Golden Age... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfhrONAp-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clRpcIHpmoY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyQK6kUdWQ This Destiny is not the Destiny that Joe Staten and Marty envisioned. What has become crystal clear to me these last few days is that the biggest issue with the pricing structure for TTK is that the $60 and $80 TTK bundles are what Destiny (or this version of) should have been from the start. Whether the demise of the original Destiny lies in the hands of Bungie, Activision or both, there can be no dispute that as fun as the gameplay is and as much as we enjoy this world, [b]we were sold an unfinished game.[/b] Bungie can deny it all they want and they can make up all the stories they want of it all being part of their 10 year plan. We went into Destiny with eyes wide open expecting a story, universe and adventure like nothing we'd experienced before. What they cannot rationalize away is that we dropped into that world and found silence, invisible ceilings, death zones, disjointed and shifting economies, mixed messages and ideals on weapon balance and leveling, infrastructures like vault space that could not hold up to actual game world demands and closed off areas that revealed we were only playing a portion of that existing world. Over the last year we have paid for a beta that we've bug and stress tested. What is worse is that at each step along the way, we have had content restricted if we weren't willing to pony up for the next "expansion". The locking out of content amounted to virtual extortion. The complete lack of any in game means to access either raid or 90% of HoW endgame content, showed the utter contempt that Bungie feel for this community. Now they want us to [i]repurchase all the content we already own[/i] to enjoy the "full TTK experience" and even after all the backlash from the Luke Smith interview, we're told that [quote]The Collector's Edition is mostly sold out, so the people who found that stuff valuable jumped at the chance. You'll likely see it sold on eBay for much more than what we're asking. But that's not the point. Right?[/quote] I appreciate all the support this community have shown each other since the launch of the game. I have been both humbled and amazed by so many of you and I am so thankful for the chance to have gotten to know some of you a bit through these causes we've fought together for, but I'm sure most of you feel the same... at some point I just want to enjoy playing Destiny again. Bungie, this game is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be an escape from the reality of the ups and downs of everyday life. Except it's starting to not be fun anymore and it's time for you to make a decision. What is your motivation going forward? Do you want to drip feed content and milk us for everything you can in the hopes that the content is addicting enough to keep us around? Or do you want to take the chance to try to create something truly great and build a living, breathing, social experience that we can all step into and lose ourselves in together? The Destiny that was is not, but the Destiny that can be still is. So who are you Bungie? The visionaries that dreamed up the worlds of Halo, who would play alongside us with your flaming skulls and who made us feel so much a part of that world? Or are you the condescending corporate lap dogs you've shown the last two months? We don't want to fight, we don't want to be adversaries and I say with real sadness that many of us just aren't going to stick around to find out if you don't right this ship and show us that you give a sh*t. You keep saying you’re listening, well it's time you start taking part in the discussion. We'll all see what you have to say in the weekly update tomorrow and I hope it's sincere, but words are cheap and we've seen your eyes and teeth. ----Edit---- It seems that while I was posting this, we have received part 1 of the weekly update. The answer to our anger and the olive branch offered as a sign that they are really, truly listening to us now... [b]They've figured out a way to introduce microtransactions into the game.[/b] You were right about one thing at least, Bungie. Actions do speak louder than words. ----Edit 2----- DeeJ says "We'll talk next week". Can somebody please explain to DeeJ how conversations work?[/quote]
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Bungie and Activision have completely massacred the story element of this game. PVE is a complete joke in this game
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*Deconstructing
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Guys we must show Bungie we are serious bc we were screwed and jewed from day one so I say we copy paste this thread all throughout feed back because Bungie has robbed and wronged us all
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Bump. Loving all your work lost these forums are very inconsistent. Know that your effort is greatly appreciated all us old bungie supporters need to stick together.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/145240703/0/0
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Hun8ryGhost: 8/11/2015 4:45:59 AMYup. I'm not buying TK until I know EXACTLY how much content is in it, and whats happening with vault space. bungie have lied and false advertised everything about the game up to now. I simply don't believe anything slimy PR word salad politician Deej and autistic "throw money at your screen" Puke Smith say.They have burned out any brand loyalty with lies on top of greed. As someone said earlier this game is entirely based on loot, with no place to store what we spend hours grinding for. Retarded fundamental design. Great points dude. We paid bungie to Beta test their game, and everyone knows it...... On the deceptive, conflicted interest Bungie Youtubers, not mentioning any names; Datto, Tefty, Bastards, and the rest of the bribed non-critical commentary budgie-pocket crew, who are basically unpaid promoters, trading channel content and early access for free positive PR .- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EnQCFQavtc
