http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/06/22/bungies-disastrous-taken-king-interview-could-have-ramifications-for-destiny/
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#Destiny
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6 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Astriator: 6/23/2015 6:14:45 PMA good summary. Unfortunately, most kids on the forum don't understand why this whole TTK situation is so bad for gamers in general. Don't you see the microtransactions coming? However, I want to quote Paul Tassi and show why Luke Smith's behavior was in acceptable: [quote] [b]Paul Tassi - Forbes Magazine[/b] “It’s about value,” he says. “The player’s assessment of the value of the content.” Meaning, Destiny fans will spend $80 on stuff they already have if that’s [b]how badly they want new emotes and rare cosmetic items, and Bungie would be stupid not to let them. “If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen,”[/b] he says, in the most quotable line of the interview. Smith also defends the high price point with the notion that the DLC contains more stuff than all DLCs before it, but Phillips presses him on the fact that when it [b]almost costs as much as the base game, it should have close to the same amount of content, and he has little else to say in reply.[/b] [/quote] Don't buy The Taken King. Bungie is only doing damage control right now but if we don't stop them, Destiny 2 won't be [i]any[/i] different and this would be the wrong signal to all publishers. [i]Don't be a sheep. [/i]
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Here is my reason why I liked it, it's falsified. They purposely set up an interview and set up a scapegoat so the company comes back as a savior to the player base. "We heard your reactions and we will improve on our veteran players" or something along that line. Remember that any publicity is good publicity. The interview did what it was meant to do, pull more players in. If new players get enticed by getting items not available to veterans, then they will feel superior. However, Bungie comes to the rescue and gives veteran players some exclusive content and pleases them on their end. All while getting all this free publicity through social media and gaming websites and/or news websites and getting more players to play their game. It is nothing but a PR stunt.
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20 OdpowiedziI certainly didn't need Forbes to tell me what a PR nightmare this was. No debating that. But it's funny, what really struck me was the focus this put on what a marketing screw up this was. Bungie/Activision had a perfect model. A very aggressively priced set which would be a great way to lure new players. Day one people would have been annoyed, but eventually realized this is no different than any other GoTY edition. All Bungie had to do was put together a deal where anyone who owned the game and the first two DLCs would get all the digital swag when they buy the TK. This would have given them the identical contents of the package. But they got greedy and tried to press their fanbase to pony up and re-buy. Smith is just a tool who has no PR skills and shouldn't have been answering those questions in the first place. My prediction: they're going to package all that swag now as incentive for people to buy TTK. Who knows, maybe the whole thing was orchestrated for that same purpose, to give people a sense of victory (and at the same time, coerce them into buying the content). Very clever.......
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1 OdpowiedźDestiny's main revenue source will not be new players, it will be maintaining its loyal player base through expansions. If they overprice DLC then it will lose players. End of story.
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1 OdpowiedźI understand why UK players are having an issue. It's 65 euros there compared to our $40 here. So is be upset if I had to pay close what I paid full price for destiny the main game.
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9 OdpowiedziI think the only way to redeem themselves is to make Xur sell THE weapon. We all know what THE weapon is. Or just give us something just as good if not better.
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Just to play devils advocate, The guy who does the Forbes articles for Destiny has been making these for months (usually about the negative aspects). Not that he is necessarily wrong, but with the recent announcements from Deej and Euro gamer about said interview and rewards, I say we wait and play this by ear and wait till we have more facts.
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1 OdpowiedźThe interview was perfect, for eurogamer. They have the best article to attract the most attention then probably anything else they could put out about any game right now. Especially since it is probably flooding most major gaming circles. And since now everyone has traded their old and rusting pitchforks for new shiny ones and fired up new torches. They are definitely getting the most traffic, but a few others are trying to catch some of this action too. After reading it more then once the responses sound lighthearted and joking to me, but I've been told I'm a massive ass so that may skew things. Really what was the lead raid designer going to say after he had already answered on it? Now deej has to say something to calm the clamor of angry villagers. Though I think if someone says they weren't going to get it over the interview then there's a high chance they weren't going to in the first place. But that's just me.
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika BingoBangoBungo: 6/24/2015 12:52:34 AMPaul tassi (the author of the Destiny article) does a lot of shitty posts about destiny and problems with the game. Not surprising coming from him. My favorite to date is his complaint about the taken, which he claimed was bungie being incredibly lazy without paying any respect to the purpose they serve in the story
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12 OdpowiedziThe interview was shitty because the interviewer asked the same damn question over and over expecting Luke to suddenly aha he his mind or something. Luke had only one answer he could POSSIBLY have given, "This is what we made, this is what we're selling it for, and we believe it's worth that value." Agree or disagree all you want with that statement but that's all he could say. Badgering him with the same question to make yourself seem like the hero interviewer to all these butthurt day one players who want free emotes doesn't change that.
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4 OdpowiedziWhy does Forbes focus on Destiny so much vs other games?
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1 Odpowiedź[This post requires a [url=http://www.destinythegame.com/taken-king/wheretobuy]Bungie "The Taken King" Premium Membership[/url] to view.]
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3 OdpowiedziThese [b]emotes[/b] had better have the chance to either drop exotics, or have the Queen give my character a reach around for [b]80 -blam!-ing dollars.[/b]
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Paul Tassi =/= Forbes. He's just a blogger, and a pretty negative one at that... His zero to outrage time is way too short. But he spouts the sort of drivel that appeals to a lot of you guys, and that drives his traffic stats. I'm not saying you're stupid, but headless zombies have more brains.
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2 OdpowiedziThe deal Bungie is offering for $80 is smart and totally worth it. Just don't screw over the veterans. Most of the stuff is worthless except for the XP gear and the emotes. I don't think some noob should have emotes that I don't.
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4 OdpowiedziEdytowany przez użytkownika Coyote_x_Starrk: 6/23/2015 9:02:41 AMIt was a complete joke! It could not have possibly gone any worse. - He basically admitted that the exclusives had been set aside in order to entice New players join AND existing players to buy content they already own - He made an absolutely moronic and supremely condescending comment about us throwing money just because something looks cool and THEY made it. Implying we will buy anything they make. - That moron even sidestepped the exchange rate issue by pretending to not understand the concept of [b][i][u]FOREIGN CURRENCY[/u][/i][/b] - Not ONCE during that entire interview did he EVER try and hide the fact that he was spewing mindless PR bullshit by trying to camouflage it with buzzwords or work it into other things. He just spewed the company lines like he was reading from a damn card. This moron should never be allowed in front of a reporter EVER again.
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Who tf is that 8%?, probably every bungie employee
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika dakota 712: 6/24/2015 12:44:18 AMEuro gamer spoke on the subject and said smith was actually very polite and it's was a joke most the time and the community doesn't need to treat it as such it was his writing that messed it up Here are the links [url=https://mobile.twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/613376448645214209]https://mobile.twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/613376448645214209[/url] [url=https://mobile.twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/613376025775460352]https://mobile.twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/613376025775460352[/url]
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1 OdpowiedźTMZ is reporting Luke Smith has shaved his head at a tattoo shop, and is pregnant with Kevin Federline's baby.
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I still don't get what was so bad about the interview
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I've come to the conclusion that all the Forbes gaming related articles are written by a 13 year old. Honestly
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1 OdpowiedźEdytowany przez użytkownika girflush: 6/24/2015 12:08:50 AMMore click bait from Forbes. I think they even did an article about Thorn not too long ago lol.
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2 Odpowiedzi"It’s just unforgivably stupid." Best line in the whole article...this author is really likable......he reminds me of Francis 'Chainsaw' Gremp in the movie Summer School.
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Yo bungie! Only getting on to tell you i havent played your washed out game in weeks and im so pissed im porbably going to skip your dlc to play elite dangerous some more. And yea its because of the rather rude comments made by your guy here.
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I pre ordered the collectors edition today.
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1 OdpowiedźLuke Smith is Jay Wilson.