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Edytowany przez użytkownika Breutus-:
3/27/2015 12:11:34 AM
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Let's do the math to show why 36 weapon slots just isn't enough
Exotics
1: Hard light
2: Monte Carlo
3: Necrochasm
4: Suros regime
5: Hawkmoon
6: The last word
7: Thorn
8: Bad juju
9: Red death
10: Mida multi tool
11: Plan c
12: Pocket infinity
13: Vex mythoclast
14: Invective
15: Universal remote
16: Ice breaker
17: No land beyond
18: Patience and time
19: Super good advice
20: Thunderlord
21: Dragons breath
22: Gjallarhorn
23: Truth
*42: 4th horseman
Vault of glass
24: fatebringer
25: vision of confluence
26: atheon epilogue
27: praedyths timepiece
28: praedyths revenge
29: praetorian foil
30: found verdict
31: Hezens vengeance
32: corrective measure
Crotas end
33: oversoul edict
34: abyss defiant
35: word of Crota
36: fang of ir yut
37: black hammer
38: swordbreaker
39: light of the abyss
40: song of ir yut
41: hunger of Crota
This list doesn't include the legendary jewels from the multiple factions that bungie put in the game for us to utilize.
And all this before house of wolves additions!!!
They say people don't have their vault full. Well if that's true it's only because they have been forced to dismantle their hard earned weapons to have room to be able to transfer weapons from one character to another... I have a dozen weapons on each character and my vault is 3/4 full. I can't keep it full so I am able transfer weapons between each...
I feel bringing it to 36 is just insulting... It's like they are not paying attention to how their own game works...
They tease us with more space and it's still not even enough to use what we have. Truly a bummer they couldn't get this right. I was very excited...
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They should've added at least 100 for weapons alone...disappointed. This wouldn't even suit my needs at this current time and after House of Wolves my space will get even more limited... Gosh darn Bungie...
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Hazza1607: 3/28/2015 11:08:16 PMLets do some more math. 30 slots per character. That could take away a lot of those guns and you still have room to put in your precious faction jewels. Yes I know there are duplicates but thats 90 weapons per character. So stop complaining about 16 more vault space. There is plenty of room. Maybe even dismantle your duplicates and just transfer weapons across characters. Stop complaining bungie did not make this game so people could cry about bungie giving them more than enough. + you have 126 weapon slots overall, thats more than enough for house of wolves guns as well.
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You also have 30 slots per character.
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Game needs to leave 360 and ps3 behind
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You guys forget that this game is a last gen game and that there are performance limitations. How hard would it be to to give you unlimited/expansive vaults? Probably not very hard from a programming standpoint. How do they prevent this change from affecting the game's performance? That is another question altogether. It may seem insignificant however it could have a profound effect. You guys already complain about lag.... Remember people, this is a last gen title so it is last gen quality! The fact that they pulled such a complex game off on the 360 and PS3 is kind of impressive when you think about it.
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1 OdpowiedźSeriously! This is utter bullshit! How -blam!-ing hard is it to make a scrolling feature to double or triple our vault space!? I don't want to sound ungrateful for the bonus, but the fact that Deej told us that most vaults currently aren't full, completely disregarding how our characters are mules with multiple weapons littered about, then has the audacity to blame last gen limitations on the vault size!?!? AAARRRRRGGGFFFHHHHHALDJCIRNALCNTIENAKANCIKEKALP!!!!
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2 OdpowiedziIf you read the whole post, you would know they made it the way it is because of memory limits on consoles. Past-gen actually lost the compare feature inside the vault because the console can't handle all the memory usage at the same time. If consoles get better, then Bungie will expand the vault again. Simple.
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I didn't even read the whole post. I only read the word "math" and my brain went off. I HATE math! Have a good day Sir!
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That's nothing. There's [b]FOUR[/b] slots coming in for Misc. My Vault literally cannot contain all of my shaders. My characters have become mules.
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Or, you know, you can just have characters hold some weapons -_-
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5 OdpowiedziDon't worry, they'll take another half a year to increase your storage from 36 to 41. This game is such a joke lmao.
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What about say I don't know the slots in your character, especially if you have 3?
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Then get 3 characters to hold some for you
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The weapon upgrades are fine its just why are there so few slots for this cluster-blam!- of aesthetic items, consumables, and materials? Especially considering there's a 95% chance they'll add another obnoxious currency/material into the mix.
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Your math assumes you have 1 of each gun [b]specifically for the vault[/b] You dont use it. You dont have it on your character. If you wanted to use it you have a copy that you use instead. Therefore you have 4 ghorns and ib and hawkmoons just so you can keep 1 in the vault at all times and still have access to 1 on each toon. Question: do you level and upgrade your vault guns before you stuff them away to never use again?
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Maybe stop hoarding weapons? You don't use every single weapon regularly, no need and keeping useless weapons that look cool.
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6 OdpowiedziDamn Bro You Keep Every Weapon You Have In Your Vault?... How Do You Even Play Correctly?...
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14 OdpowiedziLet's do the math to show why 36 weapon slots is just fine, and if anything we should show a little gratitude because at least SOMETHING was added instead of spreading the negativity that people on the internet seem to wallow in. I have taken into consideration all exotics that are currently in the game, as well as a full set of vog and crota weapons. I have also assumed that the how raid will have one gun of each type, and that the two currently rumored exotics will be joined by a raid exotic like vex or necro. Furthermore,I have assumed that there is one ib weapon of each type, though I don't really play pvp so I'm not certain about that. I am also assuming that the currently rumored scout rifle and shotgun for how will be joined by some type of heavy, however that is pure speculation on my part and we could get an extra primary or special instead. Considering that there are three special exotics that equip like primaries I have counted those as primaries for this. 30 primaries, 19 specials, and 14 heavy. As I mentioned, there could be one less heavy and one more primary or special, we just don't know. So, a total of 63 weapons before any faction or vanguard weapons, granted. But let's assume that because of elemental damage primaries, and being able to reroll the perks on ib weapons that these and exotics are what the vast majority of players will use. This also assumes keeping all of these weapons despite the fact that by how, vog weapons will theoretically be doing far less damage. Even so, I know that my voc and fatebringer aren't going anywhere, though others...that's tougher to say. But assuming you keep all raid weapons up to and including how, again, 63 guns. If you keep just 6 primary, 5 special, and 4 heavy weapons on each of your potential three characters, that means that you only need 18 spots in your vault for everything else, leaving 2 empty spots for switching. That means that after the update you'll have up to 18 additional spots, just in your vault. That, plus 4 primary, 5 special, and 6 heavy spots left PER character, as long as they are leveled to 20, otherwise subtract 1 of each type of weapon per character that isn't 20. Assuming you swap up to three weapons at a time, that means that you have vault storage for 15 more guns than there are between all exotics, raid gear through the upcoming expansion, and ib weapons, and enough room on each character that the weapons could all be primary, special, or heavy. There are a few old weapons, or even good rolls on newer faction weapons that I like to keep and use, but not so many that I need that much additional storage. I won't tell anyone that the way that they play is wrong, but I find it hard to believe that anyone has that many weapons that they actually do use or genuinely intend to use. We all have sets for nightfall based on burn, or raids, pve/pvp, but the idea that you can't cover all of those sets with 63 different guns is pretty difficult to believe. TL:DR the vault update is more than enough unless you collect weapons like pokemon.
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7 OdpowiedziDon't you guys have duplicate weapons? I have an ice breaker for each character as well as a black hammer for when I'm running an exotic in another slot. I have 3 sword breakers too because it's a pretty handy shotgun. Moving things around is annoying and there really shouldn't be a need to. In my vault I also have void and arc versions of legendary shotguns, sniper rifles, HMGs and rocket launchers for missions with burns. I don't have all the exotics by far but it still feels a little tight. Plus, you need to keep a few slots free to pick up engrams that drop. I'm surprised they didn't just add tabs above the vault boxes. Adding three tabs (like in a browser or spreadsheet) would have tripled the storage and it would maintain the same appearance.
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There is a simple fix to this: don't horde weapons and get rid of the ones you don't use.
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look the fact is you just cant hold onto every exotic and raid weapon, you are going to have to make a choice, ive had every exotic but today i decided to delete abyss defiant, no land beyond, plane c, hoc, song of ir yurt, dragons breath, and atheons epilouge, gotta let some of them go
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Edytowany przez użytkownika DSharp018: 3/28/2015 7:07:55 PMAdding the 9 weapons in how and the 9 in iron banner, that's like 60 total, you have to spread them out across your characters a bit.
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Edytowany przez użytkownika Lizard King: 3/28/2015 7:04:50 PMYou forget Iron Banner weapons in the list as they are also extremely powerful specially in crucible.
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7 OdpowiedziYour math should have told you 300 damage weapons are useless
